Federal drug officials are warning Georgia to shelve its plans to be the first state to allow pharmacies to dispense medical marijuana products.

News outlets report that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration on Nov. 27 warned pharmacies that dispensing medical marijuana violates federal law.

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    7 months ago

    Fine, who would want Walgreens, Walmart and CVS to be where you get your weed? I would rather buy it at independent stores both for atmosphere and that large pharmacies are shitty companies in every way possible.

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      Because it’s a prescription medication, just like any other. It’s far more convenient to pick up prescription just like you do any other.

      There will be far fewer dispensaries than pharmacies, so less choice, more driving, and worse hours.

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        Dispensaries vastly outnumber pharmacies in the towns I’ve lived in (Oregon, Colorado, New Mexico) and also have more convenient hours (Denver they’re 8 am - 10 pm). I also have doubts about the varieties they’d stock and the quality. Being prescribed cannabis in most states means you shop at regular stores and get a discount, or in non-rec states that you can go there at all - and they tend to have a tremendous variety. It’s not like being prescribed a pharmaceutical that comes in one brand and a generic pill like most prescriptions.

        I’d also much rather talk to someone who understands cannabis and cannabinoids topics - RSO, CBD, edibles, dabbing and so forth - than a pharmacist. I would anticipate a pharmacy giving much worse overall service than a dispensary.

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          Canada legalized years ago and there are dispensaries all over the place in cities! If you’re in living in rural areas obviously there’s not as many, but still one or two within reasonable distance.

          Remote areas have their stuff mailed in.

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            Right. Where I lived in Denver, there were 4 dispensaries in wakking distance and 1 pharmacy, Walgreens.

            The only exceptions are the small conservative towns that banned dispensaries in their city limits or counties saying “we don’t want DRUGS in our city!!” So the stores set up just outside of city limits and the cities have just as much weed and no tax revenue.

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              If you’re talking about the Springs, the whole county has banned recreational. Manitou is able to have them because it’s a home-rule city.

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                I was think of some towns on the Front Range… Greeley, Fort Collins, Windsor. I recall that about Springs but they still have medical, right?

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                  Yeah, there are medical dispensaries on every corner it seems. It’s not nearly as conservative as generally portrayed, it’s just that the only people that vote in local elections are the focus on the family crowd so we end up with shit.

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        I agree with the other commenter here. I could see this going the other way for smaller towns or more rural areas, but where I am at right now there are 4 dispensaries and 2 pharmacies in a 5 mile radius.

        It’s also Sunday; one of those pharmacies is closed and the other one will close at 12 in the afternoon. As for the dispensaries, one of them will close at 5 and the others will close at 10 ~no different than any other day of the week.

        Getting rid of dispensaries in favor of pharmacies here would benefit nobody except for the drug companies.

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      If weed is one of your prescriptions and for one of many reasons it’s hard to be out in public, being able to get it all in one place would be great.

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        It would be cool if it was an option, but not the only option. A lot of states have home delivery now too.

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          Yeah I’m in Australia and I do it all online, but I would like the option of being able to just go do a pharmacy, I’m stuck on the whim of Australia Post and I’d depends on how the feel on if you’ll get your stuff on time or half a week late.

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      I’d much much much rather pick my shit up at Wegmans while shopping for the rest of my shit. I couldn’t give a fuck about atmosphere. I’m not there to have out and smoke out my dealer anymore.

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    Yeah… we wouldn’t want pharmacies to dispense something that- *checks notes*- has multiple medical benifits.

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    Until it is seriously studied with results compared to alternatives (not always a placebo) it isn’t medicine doesn’t belong in a pharmacy. That applies to marijuana just as much as homeopathy (which also doesn’t belong in a pharmacy but is there)

    Yes I know studies are hard and expensive. I’m also aware of all the other problems of getting FDA approval for products that are not patentable. Those are issues worth fixing and we can debate sometime what a good fix might be. However the process still exists for good reason, calling anything medicine that doesn’t follow the process is a lie.

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      CVS, Walgreens, etc. all sell alcohol. Walmart and Kroger, which have pharmacies, also sell cigarettes.

      I’m not seeing the problem with weed as well.

      Edit: Come to think of it, I can go to any of those locations today and get CBD products, making this even more ridiculous.

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        None of them are being recommended by a doctor and sold as medicine.

        I smoke a zip a month. But the medical marijuana industry is just a front for recreational in most states. There are a few pain management and seizure studies that are fairly concrete and reproducible but the “it’ll cure cancer shit” is mostly unstudied and not reproducible. What weed is currently prescribed for is far from passing any FDA regulations.

        Better to drop the bullshit medical side, legalize it recreational, and start taking the medical side seriously instead of lead by norml.

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          Pharmacists are not doctors and they can make their own recommendations and compounds and can dispense them legally if a prescription is not required. The problem here is it’s federally scheduled. If it wasn’t, there would be no issue to have pharmacists dispense it.

          Great, you smoke a little bit a month. I rely on it to help control my very painful nerve disorder via pain modification. I’d love a controlled dose dispensed by a pharmacist rather than ‘put a little bit in the vaporizer and hope it’s enough.’

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      The barrier to medical studies has been the Federal Government (DEA) for several decades. They’re changing it but slowly.
      Since 1968 the only place researchers could legally obtain cannabis for research was from a government lab in Mississippi, and as noted below, they wouldn’t even give you any. Researchers who did obtain it noted it was often old, low potency, and generally low quality, making it not very useful.

      Linked DEA article:

      On May 14, 2021, the Drug Enforcement Administration took an important step to increase opportunities for medical and scientific research. DEA is nearing the end of its review of certain marijuana grower applications, thereby allowing it to soon register additional entities authorized to produce marijuana for research purposes. Currently, the National Center for the Development of Natural Products at the University of Mississippi is the only approved supplier of marijuana for research purposes in the United States, and that production has been exclusively for the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

      NPR notes:

      Yet scientists still aren’t allowed to simply use the cannabis sold at state-licensed dispensaries for their clinical research because cannabis remains illegal under federal law.
      “We’ll see a decade or more of explosive cannabis research and potential new therapies,” says Dr. Steve Groff, founder and chairman of Groff North America, one of three companies that has publicly announced it has preliminary approval from the federal government to cultivate cannabis for research.

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      Many of these places still sell cigarettes. CVS only stopped in the past 5 years… Not all things in pharmacies are medicine or any good for you.

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      While there are definite medical uses for cannabis, I always felt like the medical movement was both underhanded and dangerous.

      It was underhanded because, like you said, there’s not a lot of research into its medical uses and doesn’t belong in a pharmacy. I’ve got a medical card, and my “diagnosis” consisted of me talking to a doctor for five minutes. It does help with my anxiety, but a lot of my usage is recreational.

      It was dangerous because once we have medical research it won’t be hard to isolate the chemicals and make a pill, which puts recreational at risk of crackdown.

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        That already occurred decades ago - there was an Rx pill called Marinol, which was just a capsule with pure THC. It was prescribed to cancer and AIDS patients to encourage hunger and decrease nausea. Patients overwhelmingly preferred regular cannabis for a variety of reasons… one, it takes much longer for oral cannabis to take effect and it’s difficult to get the dosage right. Smoking or vaping is almost instant and you can take as many puffs as desired and judge it in real time. Also, people found the pure THC less effective and pleasant than the plant, which has many other active compounds besides just THC which moderate the effects. Some patients said that Marinol actually caused nausea, which makes sense to anyone who has ever dosed too much on edibles. More research on the other cannabinoids and their interaction is a good idea.

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        not a lot of research into its medical uses

        Keep talking about shit you don’t understand. These serious medical studies have already been done time and time again even by the us gov themselves. Guess what they found?