• thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    sure, but if you look at literally ANYTHING ELSE about them you’ll see what we mean.

    they’re a far right religious extremist organization that wants for Palestine what the Taliban is doing in Afghanistan. they don’t want to stop oppression, they just think it’s affecting the wrong people right now. that region well not get less shitty with them in power.

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      11 months ago

      you’ll see what we mean.

      No, I know perfectly what you mean - your pro-Israeli propaganda is failing rapidly, and your only other option is to resort to “both-sideism.”

      As long as Hamas is the only organization willing to actively oppose the white supremacist settler-colonialist state, their ideology is actually irrelevant because Hamas is the lesser evil here - you understand “lesser evil-ism,” right?

      We can talk all day long why Israel funded Hamas or why the existence of the Taliban can be blamed on the US, but that doesn’t change anything - Hamas is the lesser evil here.

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        11 months ago

        In a “lessr evil-ism” scenario it seems pretty clear to me that both are wrong lol.

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        11 months ago

        I’m not saying they’re the same. one is clearly worse. I’m saying it’s probably a bad idea to fund and legitimize an extremist religious government like them. in fact, your point about the US being to blame for the taliban is EXACTLY the point. this is the lesson we need to learn from that. we funded and armed them against what we saw as a greater threat and so we looked past the ideologies of those we supported. if we support and legitimize hamas we’ll be doing the exact same thing again.

        I’m definitely not saying we should support Israel, I’m not saying we shouldn’t help Palestine, I’m just saying we need to be careful.

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        11 months ago

        The choice is between a white supremacist settler state, and an Islamic supremacy group that wants to force everyone else to live under Sharia law. There is nothing good here, it’s all shit all the way down. Israel sucks ass and I completely understand why Hamas is lashing out against them. It is absolutely deserved.

        I just don’t understand how you could root for Hamas, unless you are a conservative Muslim who wants to force everyone else to obey Islam. Root for the Palestinian people, but fuck Hamas and its cultists. They aren’t helping their nation at all. They are making things even worse for their own people.

        It is completely possible to condemn the actions of Israel and Hamas at the same time. You don’t have to pick a side here, it’s not helping or changing anything except your mental health. Support the innocent people who are caught up in this hellish war, and curse the people perpetuating it.