• Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    They can never again argue they need their guns to overthrow an authoritarian government. It was a stupid argument to begin with but now they show they would cheer such a government on.

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    Remember… Your conservative friends and family will politely wave as they watch you escorted away to be “re-educated”.

    Your conservative family, neighbors and co-workers do not value your life the way you value theirs. They are simply not capable of that. Empathy is not a conservative trait. It never has been.

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      I have no fucking clue why you have so many upvotes. This is provably false.

      To the extent that a person’s conservative friend or family is a Trump supporter, then maybe you have a point. But Trump’s political support is as varied as Biden’s. That is, I don’t particularly like Biden, but I’ll vote for him again. Similarly, conservatives that reluctantly support Trump, of which there are many, shouldn’t be disparaged as lacking empathy in the same way gung-ho Trump supporters are.

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        “I only reluctantly support the guy saying he will be a dictator, therefore don’t lump me in with the people who happily support him.” 🤦🏻‍♂️

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          Many of them claim they “have” to vote for donnie because, yadda yadda, LeftTooExtreme, LeftTooWoke, because of their 401K, gas prices, greedflation being called “inflation” (and blamed on Biden, WTAF), or some combo of these. They just don’t care if fascism is a risk, because they think they won’t be at risk or may even benefit from the fascism.

          What else to call this but a lack of empathy…

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            What else to call this but a lack of empathy…

            Lack of foresight? Ignorance? Delusion that they will definitely be in the “in-group?”

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          Whatever.

          Feel superior to Trump supporters. Know you’re right and they’re definitely wrong. Be morally superior to them because you have a connection to reality they definitely and obviously don’t have. Your logic over their intuition; your facts over their emotions, your reality over their delusion.

          When they vote for a fascist dictator that throws American democracy back to a state of nature because they feel marginalized and unheard and seek…well, they are…thanks to your bullshit stereotypes.

          Only the most morally degrading cowardice for liberals and conservatives alike.

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    “Hero-worship is strongest where there is least regard for human freedom.” - Herbert Spencer

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      Okay, this quote may be fine, but let’s not pretend Herbert Spencer wasn’t an advocate of a lot of bad ideas.

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    We should pick one candidate to all vote for in the Republican primaries.

    There’s no Democratic primaries this year and we’re stuck with Biden. We don’t have to be stuck with Trump as his opponent. If someone else wins the Republican primary, Trump will run as a third party candidate and split the fascist vote.

    And it doesn’t matter which one. Any non-Trump nominee will drag down Trump and vice versa. I’d suggest whoever comes in second in Iowa, just because they’re the most likely to have any momentum at all.

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      I agree. I think every single non-Trumper in this country should vote for Chris Christie in the primary. He is the least dangerous candidate, it will piss off Trump the most if Christie is the nominee, and you can guarantee it will mean a third party run for Trump. Seems like a net win all around.

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        Can you imagine the pucker and about-face the Republican party would have to do if CC were the nominee?

        Edit: I’ll do it. It’s legal in Michigan and I’m an independent anyway, allowed to vote in either primary I choose. Why shouldn’t I vote to nominate the Republican that I think would be the best to lead the country from those options?

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          It would be truly glorious to watch all these ball-coddlers have to tuck tail and try to save their own asses from their knuckle-dragging constituents.

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          Why shouldn’t I vote to nominate the Republican that I think would be the best to lead the country from those options?

          I mean… you absolutely should! Not even just to “sabotage” Trump. That’s just a good idea in general.

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        Honestly, it’s pretty fucked up that chris christie is the “sane” vote for “sane “ conservatives.

        Like he’s not exactly a paragon of integrity, or good governance.

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      Some (many?) states have closed Republican primaries. In the states you can only participate if you are a registered republican.

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      It’s funny that more people don’t realize that’s what they should do. If you’re going to be lead by a person from party X, Y or Z, you should go and choose who that person will be for all parties (if you can) so that you at least tried to get the person you prefer no matter who gets elected.

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      Yes!!! Been saying this for a long time. In a two party system, the power of we the people is in deciding which primary to vote in. If we defeat Trump in the primaries we defeat him period.

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      Or one of the losers from the primary could run as an independent and peel off just enough fascist votes…if any of them had a speck of real patriotism, they would do it.

      Maybe Liz Cheney should run…

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        Maybe Liz Cheney should run…

        The only thing that may be standing between us and fascism may be the Cheney family political dynasty. What bleak times we inhabit.

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    No, but you see, they’re just “economically anxious”, not literal fascists. /s

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      This is the third time Conservatives have done this, it fails every time. Though they did get their own Confederacy once.

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    Sheep often need to be led. Even if, no- especially when… it’s to the slaughterhouse.

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    I really worry about 2024. Between trump announcing “yup, we are gonna have a beer hall putsch” and Biden saying “Yeah, I’m a zionist and we need to 100% support israel”… It feels real bad man.

    I’m going to vote for biden, make no mistake (because he’s still a better president than trump ever could be)… but dude seems to be doing everything possible to lose progressive votes. I’m really worried that trump ends up being president because of the disillusion from Biden’s centrism and Israel support.

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      It helps to remember that the US president will always support Israel. It doesn’t matter who is president. Unless we magically get someone like Bernie Sanders at some point, the US will always support Israel.

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        Believe they’re making a joke. It’s an annual tradition for Very Important Liberal Journalists to do that in the run-up to every election year, where they write a puff piece and wax poetic about how they had waffles with some rural Republicans and they’re Really Just Sensible People because They Were Nice To Me.

        Obviously, this misses the fact that being nice to someone personally means jack fucking shit about what policy or politics you support. Plenty of fascists are polite to you face-to-face - that doesn’t mean they’re anything resembling good citizens.

        As a progressive who grew up in a very conservative area, I know this way too well. Plenty of people who are sweet and kind and polite to you, but will casually drop the N-bomb in conversation and talk about how ‘those people’ need to be ‘kicked out’ or how they wish they were at the border, where they’d ‘shoot all the illegals coming over, not even kidding’.

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          Gordon Ramsay was in some documentary in the deep south and thought the people were nice until they started dropping N bombs. (Iirc) Racist are weird.

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          Ahhh. Read as a joke, I see what you’re saying. Right over my head! Thanks also for that lengthy explanation! You’re a peach

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A video has circulated online Saturday showing supporters of former President Donald Trump cheering the idea of him acting like a “dictator” on day one if he’s reelected next year.

    During the event, Hannity pressed Trump to pledge that he would never “abuse power as retribution against anybody,” as had been suggested in recent reports.

    The comment comes in the wake of reporting from various outlets, including The New York Times, claiming that the former president and his allies are planning broad applications of presidential power should Trump win the 2024 election, including mass deportations, stocking federal agencies with loyalists, and using force to quash protests against him.

    These reports, along with the town hall comments, have renewed concerns about Trump’s potentially authoritarian aspirations and the dangers of reelecting him.

    On Saturday, the PatriotTakes account on X, the platform previously known as Twitter, shared a clip from outside a Trump rally in New Hampshire, in which a host asks several gathered supporters, “How many people here support Day One Dictator?”

    Trump is currently the favorite to win the 2024 GOP presidential nomination by a significant margin.


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