• machinin@lemmy.world
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    At this point, what is the difference between Hamas and the IDF? The only difference is the amount of weapons and money behind the 2 groups.

    It’s not just the hip thing to say. The IDF is a genocidal tool of the Israeli state terrorizing the Palestinian people.

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      The difference is Hamas ALWAYS has and openly targets civilians. The IDF is trying to minimize them in one of the densest urban war theaters ever (chosen by and forced by Hamas who is co-locating and using it as a shield).

      You don’t seem to understand the civilian casualties that would occur if the IDF were intentionally seeking to target civilians. You’d be looking at hundreds of thousands or even millions. And you would NOT risk your troops on the ground with that plan. They have the ability to end this with no troops on the ground, but not while minimizing casualties.

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        I’m sure the 18,000+ dead civilians appreciate the fact that they weren’t openly trying to be killed. I’m sure the thousands of civilians in detention without charges are also glad to hear that the IDF isn’t doing all this out in the open.

        Israel is a genocidal state terrorizing the Palestinian people. It must be broken.

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          You diminish the term genocide when you misuse it. And yes, Hamas murdering 18,000 civilians by using them as shields and intentionally trying to force as many civilian casualties as possible is horrific. It’s part of why I support hunting them all down and killing them.

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            For me, I prefer trying the IDF and Israeli leadership for war crimes, but it seems Israeli supporters are happy to just keep killing and killing and killing some more.

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              I’d like to see Bibi, many Likud members, and any IDF guilty of war crimes tried, too. But your libel and generalizations says everything about you. The hyperbolic libel just makes you seem like a troll.

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            So just to make this as clear as possible 100% of the blame is on Hamas and what the IDF is doing is completely understandable and warranted? Is that what you’re saying?

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            1 year ago

            Blood cannot be transfered from one hand to the other…

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            1 year ago

            like how supporters of the genocide like to split hairs and quibble over the definition of genocide rather than just admit “genocide is bad”

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              I believe it’s so bad that I take great exception when it is tossed around willy nilly and far short of how it should be used. So, just the opposite of what you’re saying.