Car companies like Honda, BMW, and Hyundai are banding together to build an EV-charging network bigger than Tesla’s Supercharger empire::Tesla has been building out its Supercharger network for over a decade. Now legacy car companies are taking a page from Elon Musk’s playbook.

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    1 year ago

    Pretty ridiculous to have multiple standards for this anyway. Imagine if you had to hunt down a gas station that served whatever proprietary fuel you needed.

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      That’s early adopter pain for you. In Europe there is one standard, and in the US, we’re getting there. Yes it’ll be a pain for a while that people with CCS ports will need to use adapters at NACS chargers and vice versa, but we’re settling on the underlying CCS technology being the standard, so it’ll just be a matter of connector. Much better than the three standards we had very recently (add chademo)

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      As someone who used to drive a diesel Jetta, I can confirm it was a pain in the ass.

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            Hydrogen is still likely to be a big part of vehicles going forward (either by combustion or fuel cell). Toyota’s been putting a lot of money into developing it and heavy transit is going to need it since batteries take up too much weight. Infrastructure will be much easier to build when they finally get to market, though. Converting gas stations to hydrogen isn’t terribly complicated.

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          Virtually every gas station in the US I’ve seen has 3 types of unleaded non-diesel.

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            Many high performance engines require higher than the 97 octane that most regular gas stations sell as their Premium. That doesn’t even count any vehicles that run on 85% ethanol.

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              I guess if you’re buying some exotic car that uses rocket fuel you either know what you’re signing up for or have enough money that you don’t care?

              I just hit the button for cheap gas like a poor.

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                It doesn’t take some sort of import exotic to run best on high octane racing fuel. Your redneck uncle with a mid-80’s Fox body Mustang with the 5.0L V8 very well might have the engine tuned to run that gas.

                Certainly it’s intentional, and certainly an enthusiast like that will be willing to put up with the headache of sourcing fuel, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a headache…

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              Many??

              Name ONE mass production car that takes higher than 97 octane in it’s factory configuration.

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                I could have worded that comment a bit better.

                I wasn’t trying to say there were an abundance of cars rolling off production lines taking a non-standard gasoline.

                There is a large community of enthusiasts who have modified the engines in their cars to higher compression ratios and have tuned them to take higher octane fuel.

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                  You are correct, the other dude is being needlessly aggressively argumentative. Buddy of mine used to have a high performance truck that he needed to get gas from like the airport or some shit. He got rid of it after a couple years because it was a pain in the ass to keep fueled.

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                    Oh totally, dude… that’s how it seems to be here from what I can tell. Reddit certainly had its hyper argumentative people, but a lot of conversations I’ve seen here seem to have a lot more of that attitude.

                    I have a good buddy who bought an early 90’s Supra that had a larger twin turbo installed on it and a bunch of other after market modifications. He ended up upgrading the fuel injectors and hand-made himself a brand new wiring harness for it and added a flashing utility for the computer. I helped him trailer it up to a dyno a few hours away from us so he could get it tuned. They were able to tune it to a handful of different fuel types… they tunes it for street gas and racing gas I think. They were talking about also tuning for E85, but I don’t think that ever got done. It was a lot of fun watching them actually run it on the dyno… iirc, it was pushing just under 700 hp at the wheels on street gas. It was fucking nuts.

    • 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
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      It’s ridiculous but it’s not quite the same. There are adapter plugs to make all the systems cross-compatible. It means having to carry around adapters though.

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        Not quite the same because adaptors don’t solve the charge rate problem. Rather than not finding your gasoline at all, it’s more like if you don’t find your preferred station, your gasoline will take 45 minutes to dispense instead of 3. Tesla Roadsters have been abandoned by Tesla and would take 30 hours for a full charge on 120v, worst case.