First police investigation of Supernova festival also found Israeli forces responsible for some deaths.

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    https://youtu.be/OF4VVyRsnUs?si=oVPAkFY99kfPpZw5

    There was a soldier inside this bomb shelter. The IDF were clearly using civilians as human shields. Hamas had no other choice to exterminate the IDF terrorists.

    Memes aside, Hamas very clearly targeted IDF locations and their main goal was taking hostages.

    On Oct 7 they got a currently known 70% civilian casualty rate (1 in 3 kills was IDF) what is far better than America’s 90% or whatever the fuck israel is doing in Gaza right now. If anything Hamas has proven that they did not target civilians just by the civilian casualty percentage.

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      Every citizen in Israel is a soldier or was one. That you’re using their reserve status to claim they are soldiers is disgusting.

      The Palestinians published video of themselves cheering over brutalized women and handing out sweets while being celebrated in the streets. They put baby’s in ovens. They admit this and are proud of it based on the audio from the day.

      You’re covering for terrorists that don’t even want coverage. That’s fucked up.

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        So a non active Hamas combatant isn’t a valid target either?

        By the way these are active IDF troops. It was a very targeted attack against the militant kibbutzes where mainly soldier’s live.

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          Hamas has a reserve corps? News to… the entire world there.

          These were not active soldiers, they were regular people like Vivian Silver who devoted her life to working with the Palestinian people. They were party goers at a music festival. They were families with young children. This is why they in large part weren’t armed, even though they’ve been trained. Reservists don’t have their weapons when they’re not active.

          I’d implore you to go watch the videos. This wasn’t a targeted attack, it was a breach followed by mayhem. There is audio available of terrorists phoning their parents to brag about killing families. You’re justifying this. You’re defending this. The counter offensive from Israel should be completely acceptable to you by your own logic. Very specific actions, lots of warning too. Guided missiles hitting the exact targets. All against known Hamas operatives. According to your logic the women and children are just what? Part of the targeting? It’s hard to believe you actually buy into what you’re writing but I have come across some seriously fucked up people here.

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            I’m just using America logic here. If Hamas was American this would have been called a highly accurate targeted assault with minimal civilians casualties, far better than the American avarage.

            If anything Hamas look like angels in comparison to israel which uses JDAMs on schools full of little kids and women and burns them alive or suffocates them beneath the rubble.

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              American logic? By American logic Gaza should have been nuked. By American logic, shock and awe is an opening statement followed by a complete leveling of cities and towns.

              By American logic, the Israelis are playing kindergarten games

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                I know Americans are hypocritical war criminals. Just trying to illustrate a point of the same propaganda we hear on the news of you replace the word Israel with Hamas.