I really can’t see much coming from this. Security relies on capital police, national guard, water cannons, rubber bullets, etc. You either have those or you don’t.
*Actually more relies on FBI infiltration, informants, information tapping, etc. This is all wayyy before anything happens at the Capitol grounds.
The security tapes reveal how [all the people you mentioned] responded to the first attempt. It’ll also show the evacuation routes, which are extremely difficult to change, where the safe rooms are, which is also incredibly difficult to change, where all the cameras are, the weak points.
from the insurrectionist point of view, it’s intelligence material to use for training. From the point of view as someone whose spent a lifetime in contract security, releasing it is a fucked up thing to do. It’s basic common sense that you don’t release broad swaths of your security recordings to the general public. We all watched it happen live on the news. There’s absolutely no reason to release the vast majority of these recordings.
They intentionally weren’t in place the first time thanks to Trump. They will be from Biden. If Trump wins again, he won’t rely on this Hail Mary method again. He’ll seize power a different way.
*I’m not saying it’s good to release them, I just can’t see all that much coming from it.
Eh.
there will be changes, sure. nat guard will be in place. they’ll probably have insurmountable fencing instead of the stupid event-crowd-control stuff; they’ll probably have more bodies actually on duty, etc.
most of the reasons you don’t want to release the tapes remain the same- especially evacuation routes and shelters. Would a second attempt be successful? probably not. but that’s why they want it- and why we shouldn’t give it to them.
I do think you give Trump too much credit. he doesn’t care how many people he gets killed as long as he gets power. and he’s not exactly… intelligent.
I agree you don’t want to compromise any security info, but this is the last, last, last, last line of defence. If it gets to that point you had several colossal fuck ups that all aligned. What happened on Jan 6 was an ad hoc defence from the scattered mess that happened to be around (and which did not actively open the doors to “protestors”).
I edited my first comment, you have FBI operations, wire tapping, infiltrations, etc. Security starts way before it gets to the Capitol grounds.
As for Trump, he’ll start the hunt way before Jan 6.
Your logic is like a like that of a Bond villain. Sure I revealed the evil plan to the one guy who can stop me, but he was totally tied to a laser beam table about to be sawed in half. But what ends up happening every time? The guy gets out of the laser beam table and stops the villain’s plans, none of which would’ve been known if they would’ve just shut up.
It’s more like knowing there are layers. It’s like a construction hard hat being the absolute last safety measure, not the first. It won’t save you from a huge beam falling on your head. Instead you have safety plans to make sure that doesn’t happen in the first place.
What revealed here is like an ad hoc hard hat. It’s not the layers and layers of security before that.
I really can’t see much coming from this. Security relies on capital police, national guard, water cannons, rubber bullets, etc. You either have those or you don’t.
*Actually more relies on FBI infiltration, informants, information tapping, etc. This is all wayyy before anything happens at the Capitol grounds.
then you’re not paying attention.
The security tapes reveal how [all the people you mentioned] responded to the first attempt. It’ll also show the evacuation routes, which are extremely difficult to change, where the safe rooms are, which is also incredibly difficult to change, where all the cameras are, the weak points.
from the insurrectionist point of view, it’s intelligence material to use for training. From the point of view as someone whose spent a lifetime in contract security, releasing it is a fucked up thing to do. It’s basic common sense that you don’t release broad swaths of your security recordings to the general public. We all watched it happen live on the news. There’s absolutely no reason to release the vast majority of these recordings.
They intentionally weren’t in place the first time thanks to Trump. They will be from Biden. If Trump wins again, he won’t rely on this Hail Mary method again. He’ll seize power a different way.
*I’m not saying it’s good to release them, I just can’t see all that much coming from it.
Eh. there will be changes, sure. nat guard will be in place. they’ll probably have insurmountable fencing instead of the stupid event-crowd-control stuff; they’ll probably have more bodies actually on duty, etc.
most of the reasons you don’t want to release the tapes remain the same- especially evacuation routes and shelters. Would a second attempt be successful? probably not. but that’s why they want it- and why we shouldn’t give it to them.
I do think you give Trump too much credit. he doesn’t care how many people he gets killed as long as he gets power. and he’s not exactly… intelligent.
I agree you don’t want to compromise any security info, but this is the last, last, last, last line of defence. If it gets to that point you had several colossal fuck ups that all aligned. What happened on Jan 6 was an ad hoc defence from the scattered mess that happened to be around (and which did not actively open the doors to “protestors”).
I edited my first comment, you have FBI operations, wire tapping, infiltrations, etc. Security starts way before it gets to the Capitol grounds.
As for Trump, he’ll start the hunt way before Jan 6.
Your logic is like a like that of a Bond villain. Sure I revealed the evil plan to the one guy who can stop me, but he was totally tied to a laser beam table about to be sawed in half. But what ends up happening every time? The guy gets out of the laser beam table and stops the villain’s plans, none of which would’ve been known if they would’ve just shut up.
It’s more like knowing there are layers. It’s like a construction hard hat being the absolute last safety measure, not the first. It won’t save you from a huge beam falling on your head. Instead you have safety plans to make sure that doesn’t happen in the first place.
What revealed here is like an ad hoc hard hat. It’s not the layers and layers of security before that.
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