You’re winning an argument that no one is having with you, great job 👍
You didn’t respond to the substance of my comment. Links to paywalled articles are trivial to paste into a site like archive.is. Archive sites are taken down all the time, it makes no sense to provide them as the primary source of a link.
You didn’t really read or engage with any of my points, so I’ll ignore your lecture about misunderstanding.
Don’t put this on people posting links.
Use a browser extension if it’s personally important to you, or just paste the link in yourself. Archive sites go offline; they shouldn’t be primary link sources.
I would have upvoted this if it didn’t have a pointless tumblr caption on it.
Way better with the last two panels swapped!
How many people who post JS BAD memes could provide a single example of why it’s bad without looking it up?
The US left wing has a lot of great ideas and some really really terrible ones that are completely out of the mainstream.
That’s probably specific enough, right?
What a tremendous asshole. Did the American people not need to know it BEFORE Trump was indicted for it?
I can rephrase, maybe wasn’t clear. The word “necessary” implies a confidence in some desired outcome, and certainly that such an outcome would not make things even worse.
Like if something like this happened in America, what happens next? The Constitution is already in tatters at that point, do we try to put it back together? And where is America on the world stage then? France had few friends after the revolution.
I have a question: if someone makes a movie about the French Revolution, and that movie is clearly meant to have parallels in its narrative with modern class structures and issues, would that be contributing to an environment that normalizes violence?
I would welcome such a movie because it would probably have far more of a textual/historical basis, point of view and coherent philosophy than “I’m so hungry 😞”.
Actually seeing a depiction of the violence carried out against French nobles would provoke way more critical thinking in viewers than a cartoon guillotine.
Would this film also contend with la Terreur? By all accounts most of the blood spilled by revolutionaries was that of “suspected” counter revolutionary spies, near 30K people. Lot of spies! Almost an unbelievable number.
You should just say ahead of time that your beliefs are based on an interpretation of critical theory and loosening the actual definition of violence. It’ll save a ton of effort for the people who don’t want to bother with you.
Implicit in your argument is that the outcome of political violence is always (or at least often) a net positive for the public. Not really buying that.
As the saying goes, the three boxes are the soapbox, the ballot box, and the cartridge box. This has been understood on a basic level for as long as democracy has existed.
It’s four boxes, you have (unironically?) omitted juries. And democracy existed long before 19th century US politics.
If you think someone is about to begin a revolution because they saw someone post a crying guillotine on a political meme forum, then there were much deeper problems afoot than the hungriest little guillotine.
Because you didn’t address it, my point remains. I am not saying someone is going to start a revolutions. I’m saying that things like your meme contribute to an environment that normalizes violence as a solution to political problems. None of the nuance of what you said above is connoted in the OP, and as with most memes, the majority of people upvote and keep scrolling.
You don’t have any control over what “good political violence” means to the people for whom it is normalized. All you can control is the decision not to post the meme about how beheadings are good.
Based on what? Exactly what violence is taking place that if it ended the rich would lose their “domination”?
Not your guy, pal. And I mean if that were true, you would actually respond to my points instead of taking this strange position where my direct response to you is somehow just me arguing with myself.
but ok:
You didn’t specify a state, country or territory that your meme is addressing. Do all countries have these sad little metaphorical guillotines? Even democracies?
When and why should the killing start? Because when someone is this unspecific about killing people, I’ll be honest, it’s pretty repellent to me. Think about all the different images and ideas this meme conjures in the mind of your upvoters. How many do you think have their own personal kill list?
Replacement is just one application. What about generating entire performances? Can’t do it yet, but the data will be there when they figure it out.
lol every point is taken from your comment.
Sounds like a personal problem. Try using a little more imagination.
Most of you upvoting this would need to go to Wikipedia before you could have a remotely intelligent conversation about revolutionary violence.
I have no problem saying that if I woke up in a country where political change was brought about by killing elected officials, I’d leave. Fuck that noise and fuck political murder.
This is so general as to be incoherent and meaningless.
Conditional on what? You don’t offer anything. Why aren’t elections enough? Nothing offered on this point.
The theory, if it can be called that, is what? Dumb memes glorifying political murder serve to remind those in power that violence is delegated to them by the people?
Or is political murder itself the reminder? You think killing politicians and government employees is going to moderate government violence? Now that is funny.
The data is still going to be there when there’s cost effective AI tech…
Or they both turn their backs on him and start pooping and eating at the same time.