I didn’t say ignore old sources but at the same time i’m not sure what old source you are referring to. The Bible will not tell you anything about the satanic temple so I guess you mean something else?

I would say the same thing if the shoe were on the other foot.

My bad I misread your intent

You are letting Christians tell you what Satanists are instead of letting Satanists tell you what they are.

Shame too. It would be very cool to have a “I’ll believe it when I see it” culture more around it. That’s part of what makes Han’s arc so beautiful. At the end of a new hope he is “beginning to believe“ even if he has not suddenly a force wielder. He stops for a moment going against the grain all the time and embraces his humanity and allows the force to work through him to do good for good’s sake

No argument here. Which is why I said America is on the brink and France is not but I also specifically said that they are not out of the woods and the right is clearly planning their next moves. What France just did we needed to do in 2016 as part of a larger effort to stop the rise of right wing nationalists. I feel like all of this was pretty clear in my previous comment.

I’m not saying Trump is the end all be all of the problem, but he is the central figure and clearly super on board with overthrowing the government. If if Le Pen plotting the same thing, then she and her co-conspirators are a lot quieter about it that’s for sure.

I think it is reasonable to assume that everybody on Lemmy knows that Trump is not the only source of the issue. It gets tiresome seeing people repeat this over and over again. We all know there is a much larger issue here and every time somebody “informs people” that there is a larger issue, it’s a needless sidebar that isn’t meant to inform but to correct somebody on the Internet for the sake of correcting somebody and contributing.

Yeah they alternate between “everyone remembers” and the occasional “huh?”

It’s a very distracting inconsistency for me tbh

Le Pen is an ignorant bigot but she isn’t acting like Trump so I actually do think NR is figuring out its next electoral strategy/how to capitalize on its seats vs. plotting to overthrow a legitimate election and install a dictator.

Make no mistake, the rise of right wing groups is a major problem in Western Europe and people need to be careful. But France is not on the brink like the US is. Le Pen is not Trump.

“It’s an official act” gestures vaguely

Again*

One’s a respectable position and the other is a crime

Some of y’all really need a /s tag I guess

I stopped reading after the first half because either you did that annoying thing when you see someone else’s comment and you just rewrite it to try and farm karma, or you didn’t read it and deserve the same lack of consideration/effort. Either way it was the right call.

Suffice to say I also don’t respond to forced talking points.

Please read the comment chain before rehashing a discussion that’s already happened.

“I am unhappy with _____.”

“Hi, I’m popular right wing person. Are you unhappy? Whatever it is, it’s their fault. And if you elect me, they won’t ever hurt you again.”

It’s amazing how hard it is to combat this.

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As somebody whose ADHD expresses as compulsive talking, I feel you to some degree lol

I apologize for my kind of dismissive tone in the previous comment that was uncalled for

Yes yes we’ve all seen 13th lol you know what I meant. I am acutely aware of what you’re describing. I live in the on again/off again incarceration capitol of the world.

Let’s kind of refocus here because there are 3 things at play.

1: What do you think we need downvotes for, 2: do you think that’s how they’re being used, and 3: are there better tools to accomplish #1?

After that it’s an assessment of other potential cons.