YEP [he/him]

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Cake day: July 7th, 2022

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  • I want the Dems to at the bare minimum not lay out the red carpet for even greater fascistic elements in the US, my friends, family, and most of the people I care about are here. I don’t think that is a bad thing to want or advocate for. I don’t think most of his audience are fans of the democrats. As for the squad I think its really telling how all of the left Indy media (hasan, chapo, war nerd ect.) had Ryan grim on to talk about his new book on the squad. The book did not paint many of the squad members in a good light. The most wrong take hasans on foreign policy is on xinjiang , but he tempers it by dunk on zenz and the most outrageous claims usually. He is in the right on Taiwan, Cuba, Iran, Palestine. My gut reaction is usually if someone gets called a Tankie by libs they are prob closer to right than wrong.

    Then again when the competition in streaming is genocidaires like destiny or cia pedos like vaush he seems really reasonable. agony-immense

    I am gonna put myself in posting jail for knowing about streaming drama. Real 🤡 moment for me.




  • I don’t understand are you saying these videos are fake? I understand there is propaganda I’m saying in this instance it seems pretty cut and dry.

    I never changed my stance as you suggesting. With

    And then we went from “Russia didn’t commit the Bucha massacre” to “oh but they did kill civilians even if it wasn’t a massacre” which I don’t know what the goal of this reframing is :/

    My second comment is addressing this from your 1st response

    Even worse, they’re just that: stories. They have no dates attached, just a name, age, and “was never seen again”. I don’t doubt these people were in Bucha in March, but beyond that the NYT is not tying them to the massacre itself.

    The video ties many of these people to specific videos of their deaths, their phones to specific calls made to Russia by soldiers who took their phones along with eyewitness accounts. Your assertion that its just stories is not accurate. It would be valid to say the article does not account for every death (I don’t think that is what you are trying to say?) but I do feel like that line of discussion is really bad faith and gets away from the core of what we are discussing by moving the goalposts.

    My second reply I made in good faith, maybe nyt was fucking with the ad blocker or you simply missed the embedded media accompanying the article. The article clearly shows more evidence than:

    They have no dates attached, just a name, age, and “was never seen again”. It often identifies multiple cctv shots of a killing and contemporaneous photos taken by hidden residents in the neighboring buildings. It doesn’t just list their name, it states the circumstances of each death and accompanies many of them with photographic and video proof to corroborate testimony and phone records.

    In my personal view of the event as a whole, the evidence doesn’t show a picture of genocide that libs like editorialists at the nyt would attribute to it. It does show a specific military reprisal against civilians done by a military unit that would constitute a war crime. War crimes committed by Russia and Ukraine are not unique and a consequence of the wests utter genocidal (in this case it’s genocidal bc slavs historically and today are viewed as lesser, see “asiatic horde” portrayals online) meddling.

    It feels really disheartening the way in which you have mischaracterized not only the article but what I’m trying to say. By accusing me of reframing the conversation for some unnamed “goal” it feels like you are basically calling me a fed or ignorant.

    Overall im contesting that it is not correct to claim “These civilians were killed by Ukraine” As you did in your original comment. I think the proper analysis of the event is that it was a crime but it as not endemic as evidenced by comparing this conflict with one like Iraq or Vietnam.

    I’m sorry in advance if I was clear or am missing the point your trying to make.