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  • That is a disgusting lie. I said nothing of the sort.

    You did. You’re downplaying the fact that the GVA uses junk data to drive an agenda.

    I’m literally doing the opposite of that since I asked you what source should be used.

    By using the next line of:

    Then I asked you if there was more than one.

    Which implies that. Who cares as if there is more than one it’s the same problem. Which is not the case at all, if we had thousands of kids being killed constantly in school, that’s a totally different issue than if we had one outlier shooting every year.

    I didn’t say anything even remotely like, “who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere.”

    You pretty much did. You are equally giving weight to false numbers.

    You should be ashamed of yourself with trolling this shitty.

    You clearly don’t understand trolling, at this point you should know I’m not a troll.

    I should have realized you’d lie about what I said in direct response to the thing I said yet again since this is the third or fourth time you’ve done it.

    Sure thing, totally… you’re all about the truth and you really are for legislation that’ll actually fix the problem, not emotionally driven legislation, because even 1 school shooting is the same as 50…

    Oh, and now it’s time for you to tell the lie that I want to ban guns. You’ve done that one before.

    The end goal is always, a ban from the anti2a crowd. Making something so damn impossible to obtain, is a defacto ban. Just remember that those who put the rules in place, will make sure minorities, LGBTQ+, and women will be the main ones unable to obtain firearms.



  • It’s literally in the first paragraph:

    There have been at least 50 school shootings in the United States so far this year, as of September 19. Thirteen were on college campuses, and 37 were on K-12 school grounds. The incidents left 24 people dead and at least 66 other victims injured, according to CNN’s analysis of events reported by the Gun Violence Archive, Education Week and Everytown for Gun Safety.

    And if you read the article from NPR and look at the data from GVA, you will see a pattern of school shootings that aren’t school shootings, but are counted as such because they happened near a school or some other reason.

    An example is a pellet gun being used to shoot out the window on a school bus on the weekend…do you think that should be counted as a school shooting? I hope you don’t.
















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    7 days ago

    HOWEVER… The entire point of the amnesty, is to make it illegal for ownership of certain firearms, make them illegal to resell, etc., but you give people incentive to give up and make money from the ones they shouldn’t own

    The issue is the antigun groups are targeting rifles. You know how many people are killed by rifles a year? 1.5-2.5k, this is all rifles and shotguns combined. You know how many people are killed by AR-15s a year? 50-100…yea the weapon of choice for murder here in the states is handguns. It’s not about keeping people safe, it’s about virtue signaling to their base.

    Over time, you end up with far less guns in circulation.

    Pandora’s box is open here. There is no closing it

    That’s what happened here in Australia.

    Not really, you all now have more guns in civ hands than before the ban. Ratio wise it’s less but that’s because you have more people.

    You might still have a huge amount of firearms, but the aim isn’t to solve the problem overnight. But, it saves a huge amount of the problem immediately, and over time, it solves the issue…

    Unless you plan on banning knives, which kill around 3.5k a year (yes that’s correct more than all rifles and shotguns combined) then it’s not about saving lives. It’s about saving certain lives.

    It works… It worked for us. You’re playing the short game.

    It worked for you, because you have safety nets. You don’t have a shit ton of gangs and drugs flowing through the streets. You don’t have cartels 4 foot from your boarder. You also don’t have the population size we do.

    You’re trying to argue that unless the solution is 100%, it isn’t worth pursuing.

    No, I’m arguing that it’s a solution that will not work for even 5%. As I have explained above, rifles which are the targets, make up basically nothing when it comes to firearm deaths. Yet they’re the constant focus. If we’re to fix our violence issue here in the USA, we need to help get people to stop being violent first.

    No, but we have some of the most effective protection against shootings in the world. So it would be silly to ignore a working solution. We don’t have a lot of the things on that list

    You have some major ones on that list. You for one don’t lock up everyone who is a non violent drug offender to the point that you create broken homes which fuels gang membership. You don’t have qualified immunity either, which here in the USA, 1 in 40 of our gun deaths is by the police. (Yes you read that correctly, the police here kill on average 1k Americans a year via firearms). You have single payer healthcare, you give a shit about your citizens and have safety nets. We lack so much that it drives our citizens into poverty and creates prime circumstances for violence.