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  • A person’s perception is highly informed by how well or poorly they understand the subject or situation in question.

    Let’s say you got stood up by a first date because they got hit by a car on their way to you. Your perception of them is going to vary wildly depending on whether or not you know the facts behind why they didn’t show up.

    Similarly, knowing how you actually fit into things at your job - i.e. your importance to your working group, the company, it’s customers, society itself, allows you to have a more accurate set of facts to base your perception on.

    So yes, the truth matters.





  • A light breeze is enough for Google to lock accounts, and they make it nearly impossible to re-access. And they have no reliable customer service you can call or email.

    But the final straw for me was when they started this bullshit of saying “tell me your phone number so we can make sure it’s you”. They never had my number in the first place, so it was clear that this was pure bullshit of them trying to associate real world identities with their accounts.

    After that, I said “fuck em”, changed to other providers, and haven’t look back since.

    Go ahead and delete my accounts - your service is pure garbage anyway.












  • I gave up completely on Google accounts after they kept flagging make-believe security issues and made it near impossible to verify that it’s yours.

    Even if you have a secondary email configured (and this would be what it’s for) - but oh, no, that’s still not good enough for them.

    Then they pulled the utter bullshit of requiring your phone number “so they can make sure it’s you” - but since there was never a phone number associated with the account, this is clearly nothing more than a data grab so they can associate real identities with their accounts.

    That was the last straw for me, and I decided that their service was utter garbage, completely unreliable, and not worth using anymore.


  • I think it’s more accurate to say that up/downvoting is used as like/dislike, with disagreement being a special case of dislike.

    But like it or not, you will never get rid of that association because it’s the simplest and most direct interpretation of an up/down vote. It’s just psychology.

    Also keep in mind that your feelings on what up/downvoting should mean is really more appropriate at the comment level, whereas, having them represent like/dislike is notably more appropriate at the thread/post level - as the idea for a sub/magazine is that content users like should be promoted and content they don’t want to see should be demoted.

    Unfortunately, that makes it even more difficult because now you would want the arrows to mean different things depending on the area they are used.

    The end result is that you will never break the link between voting and people interpreting it as like/dislike. It’s the appropriate interpretation for threads/posts, and it then becomes the simplest interpretation for comments as well.

    What you can do is have a separate control to indicate whether a comment is appropriate or not. However, you would still run the risk of people weaponizing it against comments they particularly dislike, so I’m not sure whether it would be worth the effort to implement.



  • I disagree wholeheartedly.

    Having your voting history public also constrains people from participating in the community if the things they support or object to would cause harassment or harm from people who know who they are, which is not always preventable, for example a shared household, using kbin from work (activity monitored), etc…

    I could easily see an Amazon worker getting fired because they were logged upvoting pro-union threads. They wouldn’t even need to be doing this from a company network - just accessing kbin once on their network for any reason would have their user name associated with them, and then Amazon can simply monitor their activity on kbin even when they are using it from home.

    Look at everything Amazon has done to their workers and tell me that this isn’t a believable scenario. And that’s just one example.

    Having votes public can cause real harm to people.


  • It also constrains people from participating in the community if the things they support or object to would cause harassment or harm from people who know who they are, which is not always preventable, for example a shared household, using kbin from work (activity monitored), etc…

    I could easily see an Amazon worker getting fired because they were logged upvoting pro-union threads. They wouldn’t even need to be doing this from a company network - just accessing kbin once on their network for any reason would have their user name associated with them, and then Amazon can simply monitor their activity on kbin even when they are using it from home.