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NAFO is hilarious representation of how corporate western mentality works when it comes to such omnipresent and fundamental issues. As you may see this kind of language and presentation is so common when, it envelopes any phenomenon, language of experts, fact-checking, debunking and etc. Language of news outlets always trying to solve the puzzle of life for an “average” passenger of the current doctrine which motivates full-scale centralization of conscious around government’s approval of ideas.

Keep being angry /shrug I’m always here for a good criticism of Putin and clarification where I overstepped myself.

I’m talking about summer of 2021, when possibilities of Russia waging war against Ukraine were seen as impossible by arrogant western “Experts”.

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I love this. Just pure devotion of you keeping justifying your lacking self-awareness. My entire point was that we don’t live in a vacuum, of course it seems for you even a phrase like that is just a buzzword, same goes for denying others people’s autonomy in process of forming their opinions. Just one marker after another. Chef’s kiss.

Are you waisting your time? I doubt your time holds any value seeing how hypocritical and self unaware your posts are. Also, thank you for additional toping of emotional triggers I mentioned were trivial to this non-discussion.

I’m not down voting, but jerboa is kinda buggy for me, that’s why I have to check votes by upvoting users and sometimes I can’t edit or delete my messages, or they get deleted out of nowhere (I’m sure it’s a client side issue, they aren’t getting sent at all).

Wait, isn’t that funny how I allowed the discussion to flow by your standards, which was basically what I meant by “falling into your trap” - basically, assigning buzzwords and reacting to such buzzwords like “shitlib”, “liberal propaganda”, “zhozhik”. propaganda". If you expected anything else, then I’m sorry for treating you seriously and expecting something above pointing markers… You could entertain the discussion whenever you wanted, I wasn’t holding you back from doing that instead of pointing markers and tinkering ones emotional triggers like some trivial Russian left YouTubers…

Yes, exactly, if something isn’t left-wing it deserves to be criticized, is it not, just like Ukraine, modern national relation, but as long as we live in the real world, we still have to understand internal contradictions of said systems and reasons why they exist, their benefits, and what preceded them in order to move forward and build a fair society, supporting a shady autocrat doesn’t do that.

Honestly… I’d like to tinker anybody’s emotional triggers a bit, but that’s not going to be a discussion, I already did with this unnecessary inclusion of Zhozhik buzzword, which was just falling into your trap as it is totally unrelated to the points discussed. You still haven’t explained what you meant by “markers”, is that a Lemmy thing?

Ah, so you’re a zhozhik… Honestly, I’d pick Syomin over Rudoy any day. But arguing with a zhozhik is just a pity method of attracting trivial self-insults.

And thanks for proving your brain works on markers for the people in the back.

Honestly don’t know what you meant by that…

Putin isn’t a left-wing leader to call me a shitlib for criticizing him.

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I’m new to social media… I mean, to social media in general, I had an account or two, that have been either entirely abandoned after creation or deleted for years… So I hope me enjoying my time here wouldn’t bring much discomfort to others.

how can we establish democratic peace if we don’t bomb those russians and take over their land?

Barely anybody says that besides some uninteresting figures mentioning a ridiculous idea of balkanizing Russia… (Balkanize my balls).

But then, why did they vote for Putsin?

Putin isn’t a legitimate leader who got honest public’s vote. In reality most of Russians who are dependent to governmental institutions are forced to participate in the electoral apparatus for statistics’ sake only. People just have to show up. There’s various cases of fully discovered falsifications, independent spectatorship isn’t allowed. The whole process is just shady, especially after “online vote” has been established, which has pretty non-trasperent protocol.

They aren’t so different from the government, and if they hate it so much, just get out of there. not that difficult.

Unironically this, since the summer of 2021 Zelensky has been pushing for proper face-to-face negotiations with Vladimir Putin personally and was… Geopolitically ghosted. Zelensky was ready to make Pashinyan at the start of the war and basically… Give up Crimean region. Seeing all of the tactical and local failures of Russian military made it obvious that they weren’t planning for long-term, full-scale attrition war that required full involvement and genuine contributions from society.

Why are people talking about international peace relations as if it can be achieved?

Modern humanity established certain systems throughout these two centuries, despite all of the internal contradictions of modern governments’ development and longing for full-scale mobilized and militarized societies, we created mostly consistent precedents of geopolitical relations… Yes, they’re hypocritical, yes, they’re not fair and they left an irrational policeman with a huge propane baton in charge of our globalized economy, but at least they prevent consistent genocides, long-term attrition wars amongst European nations.

Didn’t international peace cause Stalin and Nazi Germany to kill 10 trillion people?

Entirely backwards, Stalin and Nazi Germany killing 10 trillion people caused international peace.