The party of self reflection 😂

Oh. I hadn’t considered this. Devastating…

It helps when their brain isn’t actively dripping out of their ears😁. But yeah, wouldn’t you rather have someone who you actually agree with that’s old? Besides, Bernie would have won 2016 if anything, he was almost a decade younger at that point.

Almost like Clinton should have run a real campaign in MI😃. Stop running unpopular candidates and blaming it on greens. How embarassing lol.

Blood sugar can be too high as well.

I know Steve!

But definitely call her that :-)

Don’t call her that!

Oh, the IOF said it? Must be true 😂. The only thing they say concretely and sourced in the article is that he worked at a “pro Hamas” media outlet (can’t speak to this claim, but remember all the other things the IOF has claimed are Hamas), and that he wrote a piece for Al Jazeera.

Disregarding all that. Assuming that this guy was a journalist who was also a gun carrying member of Hamas and held actual hostages in his house, does that say anything about the record number of journalists that have been assasinated by the IOF?

I think it pretty clearly doesn’t.

I’m speaking from within a fictional situation that was presented. If I were someone else would I fire someone…the answer is probably. My principled take as myself, I wouldn’t for the reasons I’ve been talking about throughout this thread. Everyone has different reasons for what they do. OP put their opinion and I put mine. I don’t know what else to say…

I don’t have to like it, That’s literally my point. Let’s try this, rather than try to find my line, which I’ve already said was somewhere around causing bodily harm to uninvolved people, what do YOU think is an appropriate form of protest? It seems like that’s what you’re trying to get off your chest in a round about way.

Yeah, a phone company is never never never going to alienate customers like that. And the power dynamics in that situation are quite different. If you’re looking to suss out the limits of what I think about this than you’ve done it. I 100% agree people shouldn’t come to physical harm. Again, that’s quite a different situation than the one described in the article though.

100% agreed

Absolutely, because that makes my life more difficult, as a restaurant owner. I don’t feel like that says anything about it tactically or morally though.

Yes I do think that. Protest tactics change but they seem to gravitate toward noncompliance and, yes, disruption. I honestly can’t think of a successful protest that was all roses and hugs. Could be missing something.

Isn’t the point of protest to not let people forget about things? How easy would it be in the west to not notice, the media certainly isn’t keeping up on it. Every time I see one of these I think, that’s a braver person than me, and thank fucking god for the Streisand effect. No downvote, but strong disagree.

Stop it, stop it. I already like the guy. Geez. But really, great joke.

Well Lucas saw it as an allagory for resistance against empire so there may be something in there to muddy up simple conservatism. Nothing is simple.

Waste heat reclamation for water heating purposes seems like a no brainer. For small buildings as well as large ones, but no one talks about it.

Yeah, I read the list and fair enough. I mean to go further I’d have to argue each thing and say if I agree that it helps the economy directly or not, who the fuck cares what I think. The Biden admin has been good on anti trust, those are filtering through the courts now right, so no concrete effect yet right? Biden is good on labor too, being like the first president to visit a picket line. That may have legitimately helped the broader economy if that factored into their decision to concede to the UAW and those wage increases filtered out to non Union shops in the south. Almost invariably when people cite “Bidenomics” they mention infrastructure and green spending, which I don’t think nearly accounts for what’s been happening in terms of unemployment. I wanted concrete examples, you gave me a bunch. That’s something to think about, and I appreciate it.