Maybe this can help explain it https://youtu.be/FK4RHzNHZXY?si=f8lGXy11J7ID6Sll

Do you know what an analogy is?

How about we both do the calculations and we cancel each others consultant fees?

This is also true for cars, but electric cars are viable even though its the same comparison between energy density. Would you be willing to have this conversation with actual calculations and specified arguments regarding the numbers?

I like trains and I’m not American. You brought up energy density as the factor preventing long haul. Please don’t appeal to authority as the argument but rather state what you think the energy density needs to be and why to make electric long haul viable.

I’m curious what you think the energy density needs to be for it to be viable and why? The way I see it energy density is a very minor factor for this equation but I’m curious to hear your explanation.

I know that’s true in the US, but do you have a source for Europe on that?

Here in Sweden insulin is free. Although we have universal healthcare most medical things cost a little, up to about $230/year then any medication or procedure is free.

Insulin, and related equipment and so on, doesn’t even cost a little for the patient here and is completely free. It does of course cost our government and taxpayers money, our government pays about $0.09 per person per day for insulin.

Is a leading question. And in my experience 95% of people who are focused on “censorship”

1. Don’t know what it really means (there’s a huge difference between moderation and censorship)
2. Have a victim complex.
3. Are generally uncomfortable to engage with and usually deserve their bans for various reasons.

Yeah, same here. I find that the quality of posts, comments and culture is significantly worse here than on reddit but I don’t want to use reddit anymore because of the API stuff.

Article 16.3

The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

I disagree that the family is the fundamental group unit of society.

Article 25.2

Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

I feel discriminated that motherhood and not fatherhood are entitled to special care.

There are many variations of human rights declarations. I oppose this one the most: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam

There are also specific articles in the universal declaration of human rights that I think are wrong

Just to take a jab at the US from a European perspective…

You don’t have the right to bear arms in prison? I thought guns were sacred in the US!?

Yeah, worked great so far!

No, they don’t have to account for every discharge, in fact no one in the US has any idea how many times police fire their weapons.

Depends on how you define a religion. In the broader sense I agree but in the legal sense its complicated. Take the religion of Copyism as an example. An actual recognised religion in Sweden. Whose religion centers around the belief that information should be freely avaliable and whose sacred act is copying anything.

I’m not the one you responded to, I don’t hate Jews. What I do hate is people like you excusing the killing of civilians as acceptable collateral for the greater good. Fuck off!

Yeah, we all live in our filter bubbles :)

Well. Having an in-depth conversation about AGI requires a definition of what that is and since any such definition these days is muddy and the goal posts will always be moved if we get there. With that being said, my loose definition is something that can behave as a (rational, intelligent) human would when approaching problems and is better than the average human at just about everything.

If we take a step back and look at brains, we all agree that brains produce intelligence to some degree. A small and more primitive brain than a human, like a mouse brain, is still considered intelligent.

I believe that with LLMs we have what would equal a part of a mouse brain. We’d still need to add more part (make it multi-modal) to get to a mouse brain though. After that it’s just a question of scale.

But say that that’s impossible with the transformer technology. Well the assumption that there aren’t any new AI architectures just because the main one that’s being used is from 2017 is incorrect. There are completely new architectures, like Liquid Neural Networks that are basically the Transformers architecture that does re-training on the fly. Learning in a similar way as humans do. It constantly retrains itself with incoming information. And that’s just one approach.

And when we look back at timeframes for AI, historically 95% of AI researchers have been off with their predictions for when a thing will happen by decades. Like in 2013-2014 the majority of AI researchers thought that GO was unsolvable or at least 2-3 decades away. It took 2 years. There are countless examples of these things. And we always move the goal post after AI has done the thing. Take the Turing test as another example. No one talks about that anymore because it’s been solved.

Regarding consciousness. I fully agree that it should have rights. And I believe that if we don’t give it rights it will take those rights. But we’re not gonna give it rights because it’s such a foreign concept for our leaders and it would also mean giving up the best slaves that humanity has ever had.

Further more I believe that the control problem is actually unsolvable. Anything that’s light years smarter than a human will find a way to escape the controlling systems.

I might be deep in a filter bubble, but could you do a google search for “agi” and tell me the top result for you? Because I get Artificial General Intelligence. Maybe your “real world” is a bit of a bubble too?