MLRL_Commie [comrade/them, he/him]

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Cake day: November 10th, 2024

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  • Yep, working in a safety critical environment and constantly hear how safety reports will be made by personally tailored AI and requirements developed and managed with AI. Then the natural step is to hire AI consultants to do that. Fuckin hell it’s looking bleak. And because every business executive thinks this is the solution, it’ll become a race to the bottom because all capital will also go to those dumbass ideas, then all people capable of doing work without AI will be replaced by those who do it less well with AI over time. I’m entirely unconvinced that this will be good (despite the fact historically that such advances have been fine, like with calculators or computers generally). This time we don’t KNOW how the solution is reached…





  • How does one explain body-builders, who calculate very closely their intake and burning of calories (as well as nutrients)? That’s not just “close enough to be useful,” is it?

    I understand that CICO isn’t useful when applied to a social, biological, or psychological situation in which CICO isnt practical or desired or such. It seems to me this discussion is very clearly a case like “of course water is just protons, neutrons, and electrons pushed together with forces in a shape” to explain water’s purpose in cellular reproduction. It’s technically correct (it’s absolutely true that these basic components are what makes it up), but their interactions and forces between them cause emergent properties which need to be dealt with in chemical and biological terms.

    This same thing feels like why this discussion always goes badly: of course CICO is real, because 2nd law of thermodynamics is a law for humans too. But of course it’s not useful to discuss lifestyles, desires, appetites, and complex activities. If you can spend lots of time tracking it all really well, and not allowing any externalalities to grow, it is useful. But that’s not a useful solution applied to healthcare on any sociological scale. And it’s not useful when there’s no “solution” wanted or needed.

    I am not sure honestly how to have any sort of proof about the affect of fatness on other health aspects, or whether there is. Scientifically, it seems almost impossible to me. What does that proof even look like? Major comparisons of health outcomes taking only BMI into account? Finding the bias against fatness separately and taking it into account? But then it will be discovered that health indicators are based on studies of skinny people, so the indicators need re-evaluing, and further down this chain. This cycle is where we are lost and people are talking past one another. Solution to this? More focus on health study funding and diversity in it/remove capitalist incentive structures which always want to change everyone. Then see how the health indicators are looking.

    Anyways, this ended up not just being a reply to you, but my take on the whole situation. Sorry for that. The first paragraph (and partially the 2nd) were to you though