I don’t think anyone is saying it is a problem. I am pretty sure they know a certain shrinking group of conservatives view it as terrible dirty deviancy and they are using that to turn them against voting for trump…or at least get them to turn into the left’s version of the “I’m not voting for genocide Joe” spoiler voter. Both sides are trying to make as many spoilers as they can and the dumber voters fall for it every time.

They say “former president trump”…it was their careers.

So, a random nonsequiter. Got it.

Enable trump’s win with your ignorance. Let me know how that goes for Palestine.

You said you won’t vote Biden. If the DNC picks him and trump wins, you voted for trump.

So go for it, get your no-name on there, how is he polling in NJ, ahead of trump? Hopefully he doesn’t lose the left more votes than he gains. I’ll vote for them because of my position…I have less of a choice than even you.

My position is from AFTER reality smacks you folks in the face and we are stuck with Biden v trump again. Not voting for Biden in that not-so-hypothetical future is a trump vote(it is one less vote the other side needs to win), and if you vote for trump…yeah, I’ll have a little agro towards you.

You not knowing that is why your position is bad. The “null votes” went to Biden in 2020 (they go to the winner, not trump…as I never claimed. You misread that part). If you don’t vote or vote third-party, you voted for the person that ultimately wins the election.

The conservatives are going to vote and won’t stop voting just because their guy is evil, he can do anything and get their vote. You genocide clowns are only syphoning votes from the Democrats(GOP doesn’t care about genocides)…meaning your vote will support trump most likely.

This is not a hard concept. You can likely find a YouTube video that can explain it at your level.

Sounds like they may again. Idiots will vote for third parties, then the christofascist will win and take over and will enforce it’s policy.

The “not an American” gets it.

Let’s see how the Make Russia China campaign goes!

I understand you THINK that is the case. You do not understand first-past-the-post voting, you don’t understand electoral college, you don’t understand the mentality of the MAJORITY of out-of-touch voters that don’t even know what left and right mean. You lack the information needed to effectively champion your alleged cause and you are so bad at it that you are making enemies of the people that would rather stand with you in changing the system so we DO have third parties and your “solution” isn’t just an ignorant person’s pipedream.

Ah! Got it, thanks!

The guy thinks “Biden is doing a genocide”, his only real purpose it to stop people from voting for Biden without understanding how the voting system works, it is a weird way to undermine one’s self, or a troll, or a really bad maga PSYOP thing…dunno. Guy is single issue AF, but is doing nothing to solve that issue.

Voting outside the two real options is giving your vote to whoever actually wins. That is how our trash-tier voting system works. If you can get whoever the fuck that person you mentioned is to be the DNC choice, well that is a very slightly different situation. I don’t know or care who that is, but I am anti project 2025, so you would still have my vote. Other idiots that don’t know how the actual system works would write in Biden at that point or just not vote and you did more harm than good, but your conscious would be clear.

So, stop telling people to not vote Biden and go be productive in getting Aaron whoever to be the DNC pick. Then you will have some slight chance at being useful and causing real change instead of shooting all your allies in the foot, repeatedly.

Not true, but it sounds nice if you don’t think about it.

Yeah you are. You said above you are not voting, so you are voting for the guy that wins, that is how the math of the system works in the real world. Biden loses a swing state because 10,000 of your morons don’t vote that would have voted against trump and trump with a because of that one swing state…you enabled his win with your inaction.

Sorry, new Lemmy refugee from reddit here… .ml?

Incorrect

Was someone arguing that third parties don’t have good ideas?? Are you just posting nonsequiters for fun? I don’t get it.

The way our system works. You not voting means you voted for whoever ends up winning. GJ

I keep saying it but it is one big Prisoner’s Dilemma. The best next steps that can realistically happen are

We vote in grandpa Joe.

All these folks that are single issue Democrats FIGHT AND CHANGE THE SYSTEM. If you are an actual leftist, or just a Democrat, set the field for a fight you can actually win, instead of handing it to trump then fighting uphill with cement shoes. If it is a narrow miss, you have something to point at and go “look how bad we need third party options and a system that enables them!”

(funfact, part 2 can not happen under he other guy) Losing the whole fight because you want everything to be perfect overnight is pathetic. Causes move slow nomatter how much the spastic activist brain wants everything perfect and right now. You also don’t bring anyone to your cause by being toxic about it.