You probably know about it more than me…

I’ve been onsite plenty of times when they’ve been cutting that stuff up. Some owners argued better PPE would be enough for the Stonemasons, but it won’t protect other people where its being cut.

Furthermore, nobody NEEDS engineered stone anyway, and people tend to take shortcuts when they are in a rush

And its mainly the workers affected. The people selling it are sometimes the ones who aren’t even cutting it up (especially because they know there are risks).

Feel bad for my friend though who now has silicosis and no way to cure it.

When it’s cut for bench tops and such , that’s what exposes people.

Lots of stonemasons here in Australia now have silicosis because of it.

Natural stone has far less issues and there is stone available which doesn’t cause it

Business owners were also claiming they weren’t given enough time to switch. Everyone including me (I have a friend with silicosis now) has known engineered stone was dangerous to work with for years.

So they had years of warning that it was dangerous But they pretend like it was unexpected.

Haven’t you heard though?

Both parties are the same apparently

Also “hunter bidens laptop” /s

It’s literally 1 party which isn’t following any laws and getting in shit fights with literally, vs a party where Israel is the only bad thing that can be said about it…

It’s like that black mirror episode with Waldo.

Here in Australia we just banned engineered stone because it tends to cause silicosis

And yep, lots of shitty business owners whined and a few shit customers on Facebook

Silicosis is what’s killing people at the moment, and business owners in particular don’t seem to care, despite the fact there’s is alternatives

A lot of them also vape in the building when they think they won’t get caught

Don’t forget that also being anti woke for whatever reason is really important.

Which basically is just a codeword that just means they think they can bully anyone they disagree with to make them fall in line

And they’re always the victim of course

Yeah. As an Aussie, I can’t tell you how awesome free/cheap healthcare is

Don’t forget Trump also wanted to get rid of generic medicine here in Australia, so it was also cost cheap medicine too

I thought Trump already axed that?

He tried shit here in Australia with our generic medicine. Even our right wing told him to get fucked

I hope you guys end up with the same result

Except doesn’t this replace their old tool? So, its not really fragmenting anything if its replacing an existing project.

Fragmentation isn’t great, but it can be beneficial in some cases too. I’ve contributed to a number of projects.

Over the last 20-30 years, I’ve seen plenty of projects fail, and new ones take over.

If you take a look at arts/eaudio and the other sound servers of 20 years ago. All failed, because Pulseaudio consolidated and killed them eventually. Now, Pulseaudio is on its way to getting killed by Pipewire. And one could argue its a waste of resources… but, the changeover is actually super awesome (for JACK)

One other good example of the fragmentation argument was Xfree86. Lots of people argued against Xorg at the time, and ultimately, Xfree86 died ages ago. If you asked me 20 years ago, I would have said KDE was dead, but now Gnome and KDE and carved out VERY different products, that suit very different people. Both are awesome in their own way

Everyone was freaking out when devFS got deprecated. But, udev was an amazing replacement

Linux is evolving FAR quicker than Windows or MAC (mac OS has barely changed in a decade). And, many ideas introduced in linux are stolen by Windows and Apple.

At the end of the day though, sometimes a rewrite is needed of things. What really matters is that it doesn’t fragment the desktop experience (and, it won’t in this case)

Rather than downvoting. This is a good teachable moment

I used to think this way, that it was about efficiency exclusively

But the reality is, any contribution is better than none, and a lot of these things implemented you don’t really understand how important they are until a while later often

One consideration also is that Germany is apparently considering to continue their Linux migration, so things like this may also be based on feedback from admins

Suse has definitely carved their own niche as a Linux distro and it’s actually sad they’re not more successful because a lot of their tools are pretty cool