• Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Yep, you can blame the Dems and Clinton herself 100% for that one, given that we know Bernie would have won. She is directly responsible for things being as bad as they are.

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      1 year ago

      given that we know Bernie would have won

      You don’t know that at all. You didn’t see the playbook against him.

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        1 year ago

        True, but to pretend the Democrats didn’t actively sabotage their most popular candidate in favor of the “safe” choice… twice… is a stretch.

        I voted for Biden. Will vote again.

        Voted for Hilary, too.

        Not because I wanted to. Democrats don’t seem to want to do much beyond maintain the status quo, at least at the presidential level.

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          1 year ago

          Bernie was not their most popular candidate. This is an internet Fable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Graphical_summary_of_polling

          It makes my head spin that people think Bernie lost because he couldn’t overcome the most standard political maneuverings of the Democrats, and yet he would somehow overcome the political maneuverings of the Republican party which plays far dirtier than the Democratic party does. Does everyone forget the Bush Campaign spreading rumors that John McCain’s adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually an illegitimate Black child from an affair? Or how about when they turned John Kerry’s service in Vietnam into a something he only did for fame?