Never cease to remind liberals Stalin and the USSR and the red army beat Nazi Germany. The US only waded in at the last minute to make sure they couldn’t liberate all of Europe and immediately in the aftermath of the war set up Gladio and other operations to marginalize, kill, and destroy the popular communist movements. The US intervention in western Europe in WW2 is better seen as the new boss of capital coming in to save the old empires at the cost of their empires and fealty to it, from communism.
It’s been my experience that liberals cannot genuinely fathom the concept that “tankie red fash stalin” was the one who killed hitler. That’s a major contradiction that can only be resolved by them admitting they only side against communism because they ultimately side with nazis.
Which is obviously the point i’m trying to make when I bring that up, but they never want to hear it.
I thought the usual lib spin was something to the effect of “Stalin and Hitler started out as allies because muh Molotov-Ribbontrop, but then they started to compete because they’re power hungry totalitarians”.
The result would probably have been the same, except that Soviet soldiers would have waded at France’s Atlantic beaches rather than meeting the Allies at the Elbe.
Fun fact, a book produced by US military, openly admits that allies played a minor role in WW2 and that USSR would have won the war regardless.
a few quotes from it
Never cease to remind liberals Stalin and the USSR and the red army beat Nazi Germany. The US only waded in at the last minute to make sure they couldn’t liberate all of Europe and immediately in the aftermath of the war set up Gladio and other operations to marginalize, kill, and destroy the popular communist movements. The US intervention in western Europe in WW2 is better seen as the new boss of capital coming in to save the old empires at the cost of their empires and fealty to it, from communism.
I agree, it’s incredibly important to dismantle the propaganda that US won WW2 that so many people in the west believe today.
It’s been my experience that liberals cannot genuinely fathom the concept that “tankie red fash stalin” was the one who killed hitler. That’s a major contradiction that can only be resolved by them admitting they only side against communism because they ultimately side with nazis.
Which is obviously the point i’m trying to make when I bring that up, but they never want to hear it.
I thought the usual lib spin was something to the effect of “Stalin and Hitler started out as allies because muh Molotov-Ribbontrop, but then they started to compete because they’re power hungry totalitarians”.
Nah that’s too sane, the usual response is communism = fascism therefore stalin = fascism therefore you’re an authoritarian tankie