First of all, let me say that while the admins can do what they want, I think it’s pretty unfortunate that beehaw is defederating from .world and shitjustworks. I don’t want to see the fediverse fracture, I want it to encourage conversation with others.
But, beehaw has done what they’ve done. And I must say it’s annoying to be able to see their posts and comments and not engage with them. Plus, I could see their large, still visible communities taking away from ours without people realizing their own posts and comments aren’t working.
So will .world be defederating from beehaw? I don’t have a horse in the race, I’m jw
I believe we should de-federate just to save confusion for new members.
for instance, a new user going to “communities” (all)… 4 of the top 9 communities are homed with Beehaw
But there is no indication to the user that you wont actually be interacting with all of those people, you will be joining a community that may say x number of members but will actually be restricted to your local instance.
Its confusing.,
It also restricts alternatives to those rooms from establishing and growing.
I honestly think its crucial we de-federate asap.
I guess I just don’t see the point in what they’re doing. Like I get that it is too much too quick and is just personally overwhelming to them. Makes total sense, but this action seems to defeat the whole purpose of the thing. Wouldn’t just finding more moderators or building better systems be the solution?
I think they are building better mod systems, but they are not in place yet. Or at least that’s what I understood.
Yeah one way federation while still providing content doesn’t feel too good. Defederate would make sense. Purge Beehaws content from the database (admins can do that directly with the postgres I assume). If they decide to open up in the future then just refederate. Will be all good. Beehaw is trying to have a specific style of community so they are doing what is best for them. That’s the flexibility of this framework.
I really like the fact that this is even possible. Let them do whatever. I guess the chips are gonna fall or whatever lol
Exactly. 💯
Can someone give me some context here? Did beehaw.org do something to make things go one way only? If so, why?
Yes they did. The Beehaw instance has stopped listening to lemmy.world (and others), while lemmy.world still listens to Beehaw.
The Beehaw admins only want highly moderated content on their server and said they weren’t able to moderate everything coming from large open instances.
I dont think this is quite right - lemmy.world can’t listen to Beehaw either, it just still has the synced copies of the Beehaw communities loaded on it. So lemmy.world users can still see posts and comments from before the defederation and can even comment themselves but nothing gets synced between the two instances. Effectively there are separate instances of those communities now, one on Beehaw and one on lemmy.world. To be honest this way of managing defederation feels a bit misleading as it gives the impression there is still a connection, IMO when you browse a community that originated on a defederated instance it should be something really obvious and upfront.
Beehaw is lemmygrad but for libs and neo-nazis, beehaw defederated with lemmy.world because the latter is federated with lemmygrad. It’s blackmail, also known as “free speech”.
Beehaw admins believe anyone is allowed to say anything, as long as it doesn’t go contrary to what the USA media is proclaiming to be the truth.
