SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.

Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the “Loli” announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.

Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?

There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?

edit: UPDATE

Take this update as you will

I’m taking it as a backtrack, but it’s still not an instance I want to associate with.

Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven’t seen any alternatives though

Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.

I dont think it was a case of “whoops bad English” like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.

    • lynny@lemmy.world
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      Some people would rather ignore Japanese culture and push their views on others. It is so strange to me that the west cannot tell drawings from reality.

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        I don’t even care about the ruling. I just hate that people keep conflating loli/shota with children when it really has nothing to do with that.

        But yeah it’s wild how people have issues with drawings.

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          I know and agree. People will tell you characters like Tatsumaki from One Punch Man is “minor coded”. Rev Says Desu has great videos on these people freaking out over nothing.

          The sad irony is that organizations that deal with actually helping stop actual predators have to tell people to stop reporting drawings because it’s flooding their tip boxes.

          I’m a CSA survivor myself and the virtue signaling people do around this topic triggers me almost as much as abusers themselves. I don’t like people speaking for me, especially when they can’t tell the difference between a drawing and an actual person.

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        It’s not Japanese culture. I know a fair few Japanese friends who are disgusted by lolicon.

        The fact is, if you’re drawing childlike characters and putting them in sexual situations… there’s something fucked there. Sure, they’re not real, but it’s still fucked up to be attracted to that in the first place. They look like children!

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          It’s Japanese culture in the same way guns are American culture. You don’t have to like every aspect of your culture, but Japan is still the place loli/shota was crystalized into an artform, and America is still the country with the most guns by an extremely wide margin.

          I’ve seen people get called a “pedophile” for liking Konata Izumi, a 17-18 year old character from the series Lucky Star. They weren’t even called that because they were posting porn, they were called that because they liked to collect SFW art of her. Do you expect people to not create porn of her as well because someone might find it offensive however? It’s so absurd to me.

          The first thing I learned in therapy for PTSD is that I will get triggered, I will never be able to avoid my triggers forever, and that it’s unhealthy to even try. I need to be able to handle triggers, which over time helps lessen their impact on my life. I don’t see why other people should be denied enjoying something that harms no one just because it puts me on edge.

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          Hi, I’m an actual full grown real life 30 year old adult. I look like a minor. Should I just not be allowed to date and have relationships with other adults?

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            If you can’t tell the difference between a small adult and an actual child, you have major issues.