A pro-Palestinian rally Sunday in Times Square endorsed by the city chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America ensnared prominent party members amid widespread condemnation of the event.

Gov. Kathy Hochul and other leading Democrats blasted the rally as “abhorrent and morally repugnant” and drew a dividing line with far-left members of the party — including New York Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Jamaal Bowman, who denounced the attacks and called for a ceasefire but didn’t take a stand on the rally.

“I condemn Hamas’ attack in the strongest possible terms,” Ocasio-Cortez said in a statement. “No child and family should ever endure this kind of violence and fear, and this violence will not solve the ongoing oppression and occupation in the region. An immediate ceasefire and de-escalation is urgently needed to save lives.”

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    Israel literally just published a map with no Palestine, and said “Palestinians don’t exist”.

    Difference being, Israel is the occupier saying this shit, and Palestinians have been occupied for decades.

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      If you’re the kind of person who thinks that rape and murder could ever be justifiable actions so long as you say that you’re resisting oppression, suffice it to say what we will not be seeing eye to eye on anything.

      That map is stupid though and obviously unhelpful. I’m not claiming that Israel hasn’t committed any atrocities either.

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        What Israel is doing is ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians, not just hamas. Do you feel like a hero for saying ethnic cleansing is justifiable because some Palestinians raped and murdered some people that were stealing their land?

        Of course it’s gray, of course there are bad actors on both sides. But the entirety of Israel is modern colonialism, and excusing their actions of ethnic cleansing is supporting white supremacy

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          If Israel is trying to ethnically cleanse Palestinians, it’s doing an astonishingly bad job at it given their overwhelming dominance in fire power

          Not that you care, but for anyone who does care about facts, most Israelis are from the Middle East, not Europe. A huge amount of the come from Jewish populations that were expelled from Arab countries. There used to be Jewish people all throughout the Middle East, for thousands of years. In the last hundred years, they’ve essentially all been forcibly expelled. You might even call it ethnic cleansing.

          Literally, just imagine what it would look like if Israel was expelling Palestinians the way Iraq expelled Jews.

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            Why does Iraq expelling Jewish people give Israelis the right to steal Palestinian land? Are you suggesting all Arab ethnicities are the same?

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              Why does Iraq expelling Jewish people give Israelis the right to steal Palestinian land?

              Funnily enough, I didn’t actually claim that, if you look. I haven’t actually claimed that any Israeli expansion is justifiable, and particularly in the case of West Bank settlements, I would unequivocally state that they’re blatantly illegal and counterproductive towards any eventual peace.

              That still doesn’t justify taking a bunch of civilian hostages and threatening to murder them on a livestream.