That’s great grandma, now let’s get you to the bottom of the ocean. (sadly not original content)
congrats elon on coming out 🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈
I will never understand how the word cis or cisgender is a slur. If your a cisgender then you are literally a cisgender. I am a cisgender male, plane and simple
They consider themselves the “default” aka the only ones who are not “the others” and thus not wrong about everything up to and including existing.
They are also snowflakes who can’t cope with their bigoted worldview being questioned in any way without playing the innocent martyr, so anything that implies that their perspective isn’t the only legitimate one is considered viciously evil.
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Cimple as
I take pride in Elon Musk thinking my existence is a slur.
Latin is hate speech :((((
Well, tbh, Romans were pretty xenophobic
Quite the opposite but ok
Xenophobic, not racist. They considered any non Roman or Greek culture to be uncivilized barbarian or at least weird and wrong and in need of romanization
Nah, its not a slur until the kids on xbox live start using it
But they won’t. Calling someone cis as an insult online doesnt have the same impact
Using Cis when using voice will always be confused with Sis, as in sister. That’s gonna sound very interesting as a non-insult.
Yeah, my point exactly
How can it even be a slur? I don’t get it. People may use gay or trans or as an insult. But that doesn’t make it a slur right. So how this word can?
You’re right to be confused, Elon’s post is very silly on many levels, one of which being that considering a word to be mean doesn’t make it a slur.
I would love to know where that road leads.
“screw you, you were camping and I should have won that, cheater [long rant of slurs]” “Yeah well I bet you’re a cisgender. Cis. I bet you’re cis” “…what?”
“Would you pass me the oar, cisgender Jim?”
When I first saw this tweet days ago I thought it was a fake tweet. Just realized it was real.
Why is this asshole in charge of getting himself dressed in the morning? Not because he’s incompetent (he is), but because he’s clearly malevolent.
We need to come up with a slur for billionaires…
I just call them oligarchs, which already has a negative connotation
And also is completely accurate. Mainstream media, mainstream politicians and others who are members of the big club want you to think that only Eastern Europe and parts of Asia (not the parts they have lucrative business with) are mostly controlled by a few rich people.
The reality is that the US has more than a third of the world’s billionaires in spite of having only 5% of the population and those billionaires and the rest of the. 1% ABSOLUTELY are oligarchs that control the country much more than any elected officials.
Billionaire is already a slur.
No one makes that much money without screwing over and abusing other people. There are no ethical billionaires.
It’s fair to consider them as slurs. If my memory serves me correctly, they are almost always used with a negative connotation or in a context describing “cis-people” as doing something bad. Elon is merely stating the obvious.
Interesting, I’ve only ever seen it mean “not trans”
Agreed. I’ve no idea what u/vegantomato@lemmy.world is talking about. I’m pretty sure I’ve personally never seen it used as a slur. What I’ve seen is people not knowing what it means and assuming it’s one of them there evil genders, so maybe some people think it’s meant as a slur, but imo that says more about their ignorance than the word itself.
May as well call white a slur because, if my memory serves me correctly, people who aren’t white almost always use it with a negative connotation describing “white-people” as doing something bad.
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your memory does not serve you correctly. Cis is a descriptor, it just means someone whose body and gender identity match. that’s like saying straight is a slur.
Idk, in relevant situations I have no problem calling myself cis. Just because a very small number of people are broadly hostile towards cis people doesn’t make the word a slur. Cissy perhaps, but I still say meh to that because I just can’t be bothered to be offended by it.
Mr. “Free speech absolutist” over here. LMFAO
He is absolutely free to say whatever nonsense he wants. Isn’t that what free speech means? /s
HE is free to say and do whatever he wants, he owns the platform.
He literally made it so his posts appear before others because he was getting less likes than other people.
You on the other hand? You better say what musky boy likes.
He never claimed to be an absolutist. He never planned in allowing things like vioent threats, for example.
And he’s right about those terms - they are used as slurs to shut down discussion. It’s a quick and easy way to belittle someone and trivialize their argument.
The only people who think cis is a slur are the ones who use trans as a slur.
They think any descriptor but “normal” is a slur because anyone who isn’t cis, hetero, and white is seen as lesser by them.
He never claimed to be an absolutist.
Here he is making that exact claim in 2022 before deleting it once it became inconvenient
No.
Anyway, how do I report a comment?
blue check is a slur 😤
I would be very interested in a plot graph mapping out the number of instances of transphobic rhetoric coming from Elon from before and after Grimes left him for Chelsea Manning.
IIRC he actually did twat some vaguely transphobic things soon after that.
Or his trans daughter changing her last name and basically telling him to go to hell.
He has some similarities to the libertarian morons
I think he just is one
Right, don’t kill me for asking, but what’s wrong with libertarianism? Or who are the libertarian morons? Honest question.
It sounds absolutely great in theory, but in practice it could never work.
Say I want to build a house: As a society, we’ve come up with mandatory building codes that tell me how to build a house that’s going to be safe for everyone.
Suppose we got rid of this regulation for libertarianism’s sake.
Most people would still build to code because that’s just the smart thing to do but a small proportion of people would build it the cheapest way possible because it is now their god-given right to do so.
When that house inevitably fails at the worst possible time, I don’t care too much about what happens to the guy himself. He understood the risk and did it anyways. But in a worst case scenario, he could’ve been hosting a kids party that day or something.
Now apply this analogy to… Basically any regulation you’d want to get rid of.
It’s kind of always a balancing act between stopping people from killing each other from sheer stupidity, and letting them do and say whatever the fuck they want when they’re between their own four walls, and pure libertarianism doesn’t allow for that.
Libertarianism upholds whatever the current power structure is and offers no redress for those with less power. Free market libertarianism is just unchecked capitalism.
Selfish idiots who want to earn all advantages of society but don’t want to contribute anything. (Like Musk, who was a subsidy queen for years, but has suddenly discovered his love for a minimal state, or David Sacks, also a big fan of libertarianism, except when in dire need for a bailout from Silicon Valley Bank)
Ah so right wing liberals?
It’s supposed to be about individualism and individual freedom above all else, which is on par with the selfishness imo. Though many are conservatives that use the term to larp as apolitical.
Looking at this image, I would think that if I’m against authoritarianism, I’d be libertarian right? Yet, from my experience hearing from others who identify as libertarian, they all seem to be rather selfish as you say, or just very short-sighted. Is this a matter of the libertarian name being co-opted for something very different, or is that actually what it means to be libertarian?
Political compasses are a terribly misleading way of understanding political opinions IMHO, I wouldn’t read too much into this.
Libertarians tend to be against state authority and all-in with private authority. They are market absolutists and see the expression of influence or power through market dynamics as not just OK but desired, since they consider markets to be meritocratic.
I would say you can be anti-authoritarian and pro-democracy (i.e. power is still exerted through a state authority, but the state is more evenly represented by the people)
The issue with libertarianism is that it only sees the abuse of power being that which is exercised through the state, but I think most people recognize that to be an incomplete picture.
Have a look at the reading list for right libertarians at “The Political Compass” https://www.politicalcompass.org/libRightBooks and you will be be to come to your own view. You might want to take the Political Compass test.
I found this article on what happened when a town became a Libertarian experiment interesting - https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-into-bear-book-review-free-town-project
I took the compass test recently and it came pretty far left far libertarian. I’m just trying to figure out what that means which is partly why I’m asking the question. I don’t dislike government run well and for the people. I don’t dislike taxes at all and want them spent on the public (esp tax the rich), and I like people following the rules (when they are fair) and to being kind to eachother. But I think people should be free to do what they want if it doesn’t impose on others’ freedoms. I’m just trying to figure out my own political views and philosophies more deeply at the moment.
Have a look some of material on the reading list on Politician Compass for left libertarian it may help you.
When people talk about libertarians they are almost always talking about right wing (Ayn Rand) libertarians. They get attention because they are having direct impact on our current politics.
if you really want to figure out your own views, don’t use some online test.
think about whats going on in the place you live. what do questions on a test have to do with that? go out and interact with the people around you and think and read about the stuff that comes up.
your political alignment has a lot more to do with the position you occupy in your place in space and time than a bunch of philosophical what ifs on a quiz.
In my country (Spain) there is an organization called “Centre for Sociological Research”, which in Spanish it’s called “Centro de Investigaciones Sociológicas” (best known as CIS).
So, is that name also a slur, according to the free speech absolutist? What about politicians and journalists who talk about its surveys?
Silencing the speech of a bunch of sociologists is probably a bonus for him
Elon is too busy being angry at trans people to see all this nuance you’re just throwing out there. You think he has time to consider what people are saying or that other people have thoughts and feelings?
I think the free speech absolutist is full of bullshit, and there has to be ways to troll him, like redditors did with spez.
He’s already DDOSing himself. What more could we do?
