• MudMan@fedia.io
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    6 days ago

    OK, but… you know AI isn’t a person, right?

    You seem to be mad at math. Which is not rare, but it is weird.

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      5 days ago

      Ok, but… You know there’s a person operating that AI right?

      You seem to be separating the tool from the user. Which is not rare, but it is weird.

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        5 days ago

        Hold on, in this scenario you’re mad at the user of the AI app, not at the maker of it?

        As in, you’re fine with the tools being trained and made as long as people use them right?

        I don’t think you’re aligned with the zeitgeist there.

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            5 days ago

            You said “there’s a person operating the AI” and you referred to separating “the tool from the user”.

            Please do me a favor and quote the part of that comment that refers to the way the AI is made at all. The point you were parroting was pointing out that the “AI good/bad debate” isn’t a judgement of value of the technology underlying the applications, it’s an assessment of what the companies making apps with this technology are doing with it on each individual application.

            I never brought up the user in this. The user is pretty much neutral. The “person operating the AI” isn’t a factor here, it’s some constant outside the debate where we assume some amount of people will use the tools provided for them in the way the tools are designed.

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              5 days ago

              The point you were parroting

              And again with words in my mouth. That wasn’t even close to my point!

              My point was that you were unnecessarily sarcastic in a rude way to someone. Beyond that, your comment made absolutely no sense because you were telling them that they were mad at the tool instead of the way the people are using the tool. Which, if you go back and read their comments, is what they were actually upset about. They didn’t make much, if any comment about AI itself, but rather the way people are using it.

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                5 days ago

                How was that your point? You just rephrased the original comment with some different wording.

                In what universe would someone have looked at that and gone “ah, some witty commentary on how unnecessarily sarcastic my post was; furthermore, on the inconsistency between my original retort and the subjects of the previous post”.

                Did you just forget to write that part the first time? Do you think I can read your mind? How was this supposed to work?

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                  5 days ago

                  In what universe would someone have looked at that and gone…

                  I repeated you nearly word for word, only substituting a few words. Go ahead and look up “parody”

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                    5 days ago

                    That’s not the definition of parody.

                    I mean, I could tell you were being snarky, but definitely not that you were being snarky as some sort of performance art accusation thing.

                    Anyway, now we’re just talking about your shortcomings as a communicator and I think we can both agree that’s not an interesting conversation, so… moving on.

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      6 days ago

      … yeah, I’m aware AI isn’t a person. I’m not sure why that’s a question? Maybe I phrased things badly, but I’m not- nor have I ever- been really mad about AI usage. It’s mostly just disappointment.

      It’s just a technology. I largely dislike the way it’s being used, partly because I feel like it has a lot of potential.

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        6 days ago

        Yeah, I don’t disagree with the idea that the AI shills are currently peddling it for things it doesn’t do well (or at all) and that’s a big issue.

        It’s just not a running tally of “AI doing good” or “AI doing bad”. “AI” isn’t a single thing, for one.