• HubertManne@kbin.social
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    or be intersex. this is sorta been what at least part of this conversation has been about. I mentioned in another post but my understanding about modern trans would be a persons right to determine what their gender is which does not have to be the same as their sex. Im honestly not sure about my own understanding.

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      So then explain what you meant. Why is being trans before surgical augmentation going to be difficult, if you agree that you don’t need surgery to be trans. Make that make sense, cause it sounds like a transmedicalist shit take

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        It means there is little you can do about it at that point. Its like people dreamed of flight before planes but the dream was only realized once the technology was there.

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          trans before surgical augemtation is going to be a bit difficult

          It means there is little you can do about it at that point

          Not every trans person wants or needs surgery, we are not a monolith of gender. Yet once more you are insinuating that surgery is like some wright brothers fever dream. For some, just living and being accepted as their gender is the goal. Implying that without surgery, there’s little you can do about it, is fucking rude at best, and transmedicalist bullshit at worst. You admit you know very little, yet here you are telling trans people about their experience. You should stop now.

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            ok. you have to understand there was cross dressing for a long time. so it gets back to is cross dressing trans or whatnot and maybe in some cases but not in others. So if someone identifies as the opposite gender of their sex but does not emulate the gender in any way it sorta becomes moot. Its like just in their heart.

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                stop? that was the first mention and if you had any nuance you would see that what im saying is if a person is trans and takes no action to emulate their prefered gender then are they trans. Basically what is trans then. Can you define simply and succinctly.

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                  Fucking Liar. You gonna pretend this isn’t you?

                  I mean this gets complicated. Is cross dressing trans? Because cross dressers doesn’t necessarily identify as another sex. Where does an effiminate male stand or a tomboy? What does someone get labled if they identify but don’t otherwise want to take the trappings? https://lemm.ee/comment/3521119

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                  But what made the knight intersex? The clothing? https://lemm.ee/comment/3521575

                  Which makes your comment to me the third time you’ve implied gender is about the clothing. I’m looking at all the other fucked up things you’ve said in this thread, and I’m flagging every questionable thing. FUCK. OFF.

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                    Thats you man. This is a conversation. With several people. Not everything is an absolute. I have given a definition of trans several times as I understand it but you specifically avoided it. I honestly get suspicious of folks like yourself. Your offended by any conversation around trans and treat trans like some sacred cow or like electrolytes from idiocracy. You easily start throwing insults around and it makes me feel like your a shill. Hey I will jump into conversations and be all over the place and treat everything as offensive and purposefully take things out of context as absolutes. This way people will associate this type of behavior as being what trans folks are like. Maybe im wrong but I am conversing myself in good faith and as honestly as I know how. Im going to support human rights which includes peoples rights to be who they want to be and that will be regardless of the experience I have on the web around topics like this. So hey be mad at me or whatever and flag away but im not going to flag yours. Even though you are insulting and swearing at me. Mainly because I moderate my stuff by blocking not reporting. Although I will not block you either as I do feel you are a real person atm despite my suspicions.