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    11 days ago

    Yes, DPRK is a socialist state in the transitionary period to communism. That’s not disputed by really anyone. I don’t know why that could be a question.

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      11 days ago

      Honestly trying to figure out what counts as communist, and what doesn’t. Many countries are called communist bit aren’t, and some countries have socialist traits but hate cmunism.

      I never thought of NK as communist because it appears from the outside that people have no control. Also it doesn’t appear to be in transition having had the same authoritarian approach with leadership inherited across a generation.

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        It’s simple, yanks hate communism so we do the yank test:

        yanks hate it (like korea or china) -> real communist

        yanks like it (nordic countries) -> fake communist

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        Forget the authoritarian label. Representative/parliamentary democracy can easily be supplanted by outside forces, as it has happened in many areas of the world across history. The aim of NK is to achieve communism. And it’s doing so while being the most under-siege and isolated nation on Earth. There needs to be a dictator to ensure that the nation is on course towards communism and that outside forces (e.g. US) don’t destroy the country.

        Westerners make the assumption that dictator = oppression, prison, torture, evil. That’s a simplistic view stemming from propaganda and historical illiteracy.

        In NK, the people still have a say in local and national governance, through local councils formed by residents/workers in an area that pass on decisions to the central government. This is called democratic centralism, and I’d argue it’s far more democratic than meeting every 4 years to put an X under a preselected candidate’s face.

        The only thing they can’t affect is foreign policy and military issues, which is the domain of the leader.

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          The people of NK live under the control of a god Emperor, who inherited an s power from his father, and looks to hand it off to his child. The people have next to no political political power, nor ownership of the means of production.

          Yes they are isolated, primarily by their own government. For example, they are not allowed to consume media from their southern neighbors.

          Yes democracies can suck balls, but NK is in no way a Democracy, so that is irrelevant.

          In am trying to understand this NK communist concept, but I see no logic here.

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            9 days ago

            You are not going to find logic if you continue to consume uncritically what Western media tell you about NK. If you wish to ask questions, it’s customary to do so in good faith.

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            Understanding North Korea as a communist state requires you to discard some of your current understanding of North Korea. I think it’s pretty fair for anyone to accept that some of the things the west says about North Korea are false.

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        No, countries are called communist but aren’t. That’s simply untrue and you can provide zero examples of that