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    for background info, the chinese government does not ban the actual associate of winnie pooh to xin unless it is used to promote racism contrary to the claim by the red fascist tankiejerkers, liberal sloganists, and the NATO-backed hong kong rioters by young students who never know about the period before the return of hong kong to chinese rule. The liberal sloganists justify the racist act on the claim that it is directed towards an oppressive dictator, but they cannot explain why they attack a ‘tyrant’ for their chinese ethnicity and appearance instead of their morality. For more suspicions, the winnie pooh association of Xi Ping in chinese hate crime propaganda are from people who contradict their hong kong independence slogan with return to british colonial rule and who believe that british immigrants are the only true ‘hong kongers’.

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      These colonial worshipping kids have been kneeling so long that they’ve forgotten how to stand.

      Their beloved ‘prime minister’ Churchill has quotes that wouldn’t feel out of place in Hitler’s collection:

      “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion”

      [the Pashuns] needs to “recognise the superiority of race”

      “I hate people with slit eyes and pigtails. I don’t like the look of them or the smell of them — but I suppose it does no great harm to have a look at them.”

      We shall have to take the Chinese in hand and regulate them… as civilised nations become more powerful they will get more ruthless, and the time will come when the world will impatiently bear the existence of great barbaric nations who may at any time arm themselves and menace civilized nations. I believe in the ultimate partition of China—I mean ultimate. I hope we shall not have to do it in our day. The Aryan stock is bound to triumph.

      The last one still rings true with the “just the government not the people” libs nowadays.

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        The last one is utterly jaw-dropping, not necessarily because I’m surprised Churchill said it, but how this sentiment has hardly suffered a dent in the contemporary “western” zeitgeist.

        Replace a few words, trade “Aryan” for “European”, “civilized” for “developed”, and “barbaric” for “authoritarian”… boom, you’ve got a chart-topping WaPo OpEd.

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          it’s also pure 100% undiluted projection.

          nations become more powerful they will get more ruthless, and the time will come when the world will impatiently bear the existence of great barbaric nations who may at any time arm themselves and menace civilized nations

          the west is the one that’s done all that and keeps doing it.

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            Reminds me of how white Americans say they “don’t want to be a minority in their own country.” It’s guilty projection. They just assume anyone in their position would act as beastly as they have.

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              that is very interesting, the though that they internalized that though so much thay they are afraid other people are like then.

              i saw a person saying once that most west science fiction is about alien invasion, beings from far away with technology beyond our comprehension to massacre us to steal our resources, they project themselves into their stories, the colonizing monster.

              while soviet scifi the aliens are communists, they surpassed many contradictions from their society, them they go roaming the universe help other races in surpassing those contradictions.

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          good to find a like minded person, i was just thinking something like that, that democracy x authoritarian is just rebranded colonial thinking, you paint a target in a country to justify intervening in it

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      It’s the same as those homophobic memes of Putin in makeup or kissing Trump, “bigotry is fine if it’s used against someone I don’t like”

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        Exactly. Sometimes people will defend it with some supposed high-minded origin, like “it’s not saying being gay is wrong, it’s using trump’s homophobia and insecurity against him and turning it into a vulnerability that we’re using to trigger him”. And maybe some of the people repeating it actually believe that, but the images don’t come with a paragraph explaining the nuance. They’re just supposed to be an easy shot at trump, you’re supposed to laugh and keep scrolling. Most people liking or sharing them aren’t thinking about it any more than “haha, he’s owned cause he’s gay”.

        You can spend all day convincing yourself that your specific way of thinking about it isn’t racist/homophobic, but when you share this shit online all that stuff stays in your head, and you’re just spreading bigotry.

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          Yeah, and even if they genuinely believe it, the message is still “gay = bad”. They are either telling on their internalized bigotry or willfully ignoring the hurt it causes to the actual victims of that bigotry

          And the same libs are the first to cry “reverse racism” when they hear even the slightest criticism of whiteness

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            It really falls apart any way you look at it, but some of them seem to believe they’re the one person who is immune to propaganda and has complete control over their biases and associations. Like, okay even if that’s true, what happens now that you shared it with people that aren’t as big-brained as you.

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      also depicting Xi Jinping as Winnie the Pooh isn’t banned in China because it personally offended him and he’s like a petty tyrant king. It’s because misrepresenting the government is illegal and they take that seriously. Maybe from my stupid western perspective it’s going a little too far, but also China wouldn’t tolerate something like a Qanon movement, or orther wild ass conspiracy theories, so at least they have that going on.

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      The “Xi got butthurt and banned all of Winnie the Pooh in China” thing is mind numbingly easy to disprove. Just search the phrase on literally any Chinese internet service. If they still spout that claim, they’ve obviously not done even one minute of research or fact checking and are so clearly just blindly regurgitating propaganda (which they also accuse people who support China of doing, funny how that works) that all of their opinions on China can be safely ignored.

      You know what I did when I first heard that claim? I went straight to Baidu and searched up Winnie the Pooh, in English even, and surprise surprise it returned results like any other search engine. And this was when I was still a liberal who didn’t like China.