Here is the context.

Colin Jost’s look of contempt and incredulity is both cringe-inducing and beautiful to see because it’s a sign that the ruling class is losing the narrative.

  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    100
    ·
    1 day ago

    Me in 2016: A Bernie Sanders presidency is a narrow window in which we can take the offramp before the worst of climate change and eco-fascism.

    Me in 2020: Even if Bernie wins, things are still going to be pretty rough and probably the best we can hope for is that he pulls the boot off the throat of the Global South enough that humanity has a chance.

    Me in 2024: luigi-dance

  • somename [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    75
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    The way the comments there are all cheering for Luigi this far after the event, on the official SNL channel, is pretty crazy (good).

    Propaganda of the Deed has a bad efficacy historically, and it’s no replacement for organized action, but I kinda wonder if the dynamics of it are different now compared to the last cycle of it.

    Now, with mass media constantly barraging people with the man and the event, reminding them of it, and the juxtaposition of the ruling class commentary and their own experiences, it seems like it’s sorta working more?

    Though I’m sure if similar actions become more widespread, responses would be more mixed.

    • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      53
      ·
      1 day ago

      it seems like it’s sorta working more

      The lower classes have always been vaguely supportive of or at least not opposed to terrorism whether it was 19th century anarchists or 20th century guerillas. The problem is that assassination and other forms of terrorism have never moved the masses into action. People might agree that the victim got what they deserved, but they’re just voicing the opinion they already had - that health insurance companies are evil - and historically there’s no evidence that an assassination will spur them to act on that thought.

      • somename [she/her]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        37
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        Oh I agree, I don’t think this is going to spark wide action. But I do think the dissonance between what they’re being told and what they’re feeling might be crystallizing a bit of class consciousness, rather than just satisfaction at the man’s death.

        Like to use those comments as an example, it’s not just people lionizing Luigi. It’s also people talking about Jost being too rich to understand and about corporate overlords. It’s people actually starting to think about the wealthy having different interests to them, even if it’s only baby steps.

        • Yea it’s more the media coverage of the event that is stirring class consciousness than the assassination.

          If the cops and MSM had just shut up about it and treated it like any other shooting people would have shrugged and moved on.

          Instead they are stuck in a feedback loop of obviously defending capital owners and pushing back on how the public feels which garners attention and gets more people talking about it which leads to them having to cover it again.

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            19
            ·
            23 hours ago

            That’s a really good point. I actually thought the best way they had to take the air out of the situation was to say it was a professional hit and had nothing to do with with getting revenge for obvious reasons. People would still hate that CEO. But now they’ve got a bona-fide folk hero (whether he actually did it or is a patsy)

      • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        1 day ago

        I fucking told all y’all this was going to have rippling repercussions

        tbh I think people said the same thing about Bernie Sanders, and while that it’s technically true that Bernie Sanders had rippling repercussions socially, we’re pretty disappointed with the overall results.

        There could be 10 more adjustments this year and then the whole thing might quietly fade. Maybe Trump does something mass protestable then Luigi gets totally forgotten aside from a meme like Dorner. Maybe a revolution does start. Maybe the DailyWire pivots and tries to channel that energy into some ghoulish thing.

        I’m pretty open minded either way on Luigi’s potential larger repercussions, but it’s too early to tell if this will go anywhere. It’s best to try to just make sure principled voices are heard and reactionary megaphones are given opposition every chance we get.

  • Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    1 day ago

    Wait, Colin is a shithead? Somewhat unsurprising from a show that gave us Joe Pesci’s reaction to Sinead O’Connor’s performance

    • underisk [none/use name]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      1 day ago

      I have seen some people suggest that in the broader context this is part of this bit he’s doing and the whole thing doesn’t really make him seem for or against Luigi in any clear way. I’m not going to watch SNL to figure it out for certain, though.