• maniii@lemmy.world
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    Vulcanized RUBBER tyres shed PLASTIC microparticles … hmmmm something sounds very rubbery and not at all plasticky… i truly wonder what it could be …hmmmm…

    Edit: “Is rubber considered a plastic? Although materials such as rubber, textiles, adhesives, and paint may in some cases meet this definition, they are not considered plastics.”

    Here is a Scientific study MIS-CONSTRUING Rubber as a Plastic AND MAKING ASSUMPTIONS WITHOUT PROPER EXPLANATIONS !!!

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5664766/

    This is the problem with Scientific studies, Media, Reporting and bunch of people running with studies that make a lot of FALSE ASSUMPTIONS WITHOUT TELLING YOU THE FULL FUCKING STORY.

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      Daddy I’m so sorry microplastics in your bloodstream are causing your untimely demise…

      mic

      miiii

      Yes Daddy?

      they’re MICRO rubbers you ignorant IDIOT

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      hi HOW ARE you TODAY?

      i’m pretty GOOD MYSELF!!111!!!

      I TOO like to RANDOMLY SWITCH TO upper case.

      I HOPE YOU RECOVER SOON!

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      Rubber can mean both, natural rubber from specific trees, or synthetic rubber, which is made out of plastics.

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        Again there is a difference even when you say synthetic rubber,

        DO NOT MIX AND CONFUSE RUBBER and PLASTIC.

        Rubber === mixture of ISOPRENE and ELASTOMERE polymers ( naturally occurring from Latex/rubber trees but 50% naturally produced and 50% synthetically produced from petrochemicals)

        Plastic === mixture of various Ethyl,Propyl,Poly-Propyl Polymers mainly derived synthetically from petrochemical sources ( may or may not be combined with elastomere for rubberized properties).

        So MOST MODERN Industrial processes are DIRTY and HEAVILY POLLUTING.

        Dont confuse Rubber and Plastic manufacturing and lump it into a single problem unless and until you have definitive and REPRODUCIBLE PROOF THAT PROBLEMS ARE COMMON TO BOTH.

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      Thanks for the link that argues against your rant. I guess you could salvage it some by comparing the numbers and claiming the plastic component is lower than the main article’s numbers in contribution. It would be awkward though if you find out they already separated those number in their math. It also doesn’t change the point that a huge amount of pollution in the form of tire wear occurs constantly and isn’t going away anytime soon.

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      The study linked in the article also says that microplastic and rubber are different. As far as I understood it, they also quoted it wrong.

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        Exactly. We need more and better peer-reviewed and vetted studies. Is rubber pollution exactly same as micro-plastics? Or is it 80% the same effects? Is it the same effects due to the same chemicals? Is it similar due to the same processes and not necessarily the end-product material ? Many many questions that people don’t seem to understand and just blindly trust whatever some “latest study shows …” bullshit that has been going on for a very long time.

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      Microrubbers sounds like condoms for guys with unfortunate situations in their pants though

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        Maybe we need a new study of “Forever chemicals” and “Short-term chemicals” and “Long-lived chemicals” redefined and not use confusing terms like “microplastics” for anything polymerised. DNA is a polymer but we dont call people microplastics.

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          Sure we might have microplastics and microrubbers inside our brains and balls.

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      Imagine things being made of multiple components and not one pure component. /s

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        Imagine confusing Tigers and Lions and claiming BIG CAT micro-pussies are causing problems all over the world!!!

        Tigers are different and Lions are different. They are big cats but different species have different habitats and habits.

        So dont mix Plastics and Rubbers when they are chemically different and may have different manufacturing processes.

        Was that really hard to understand ?

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          I worked at a tire factory. Half the rubber used in tires is synthetic rubber, which is made from plastic. Your car tires are not made from 100% natural rubber from a tree.

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            Synthetic rubber is not plastic. It is from petrochemicals but not the same chemical substance.

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          Was that really hard to understand ?

          … umm, yes. I have literally no idea what you’re talking about.