• within_epsilon@beehaw.org
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    2 months ago

    Harm reduction voting makes sense in swing states. How is voting third party useless in a non-swing state?

    Tell them that the Nazis never really went away […] And we’ll never rest again until every Nazi dies

    • The Day The Nazi Died by Chumbawamba
    • UngodlyAudrey🏳️‍⚧️@beehaw.org
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      2 months ago

      Even in that case, there really isn’t much reason to vote for a third party. Especially if they’re one that only pops up on presidential elections while making zero effort to build an overall movement. There are some that probably are genuine, but I suspect most people willing to stand in a third-party presidential candidacy are likely either grifting or intentionally trying to act as a spoiler. Honestly, unless one of the major parties collapses or we actually somehow move past the first-past-the-post voting systems, third parties in general are just a waste of time and effort that could be used on something more effective. I honestly think that if you’re in a state where your vote in the presidential election doesn’t matter, writing in the name of someone like Bernie Sanders or leaving it blank would be a better use of a vote than a third party.

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      When the third party candidate admits that their campaign is solely to siphon away votes from Democrats? With the Green Party being primarily funded by Republican donors, like Home Depot, and Trump saying the quiet part out loud,

      "Trump, has embraced Kennedy as an ally, has previously spoken fondly of both Stein and West.

      “Cornel West, he’s one of my favorite candidates,” Trump said during a campaign rally in Philadelphia in June. “I like her also, Jill Stein, I like her very much. You know why? She takes 100% from them. He takes 100%.”

      What is the purpose of the Green Party taking away swing states from Democrats? All that leads to is Trump in office again. So what is the purpose? So that Trump can continue the genocide instead of the Democrats?