There is no denying that white supremacy is an engine of the right.

There are some Republican voters who are sympathetic to their party’s ultranationalist turnand don’t believe the party’s attitudes toward issues such as immigration and crime are the products of racial animus. But over and over again, right-wing leaders and thinkers reveal that white supremacism is an engine of this movement.

The latest example comes via an episode of “The Tucker Carlson Show” released this week, in which the former Fox News host interviews podcast host and newsletter writer Darryl Cooper. Carlson, arguably the most influential right-wing nationalist commentator in America, said Cooper “may be the best and most honest popular historian in the United States.” But Cooper has made clear that his intellectual project regarding World War II includes Holocaust revisionism.

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    Alright, so stay with here…

    Cooper also framed the slaughter of millions of people, most of them Jewish, as a logistical failure

    The article is spreading Holocaust misinformation too. Most of the victims of the Holocaust were not Jewish.

    6 million out of 17 million isn’t a majority.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

    It’s fucking infuriating that so many people keep repeating that bullshit. People legit believe it, it’s what we’re taught in schools even. But it’s just propaganda so kids grow up more likely to excuse Israel’s current genocides.

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        And in this case it’s fine for the author to simplify. Because the specifics of the Holocaust isn’t the article focus. It’s about current day people denying it happened at all and their political affiliation.

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        Same, but it’s the framing of the number that they’re calling into question. As if to force people to say “only 6 million of the 17 million,” or, “if they’re lying about this, what else are they lying about?”

        Truly devious and truly maniacal.

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      Holocaust victims were people targeted by the government of Nazi Germany based on their ethnicity, religion, political beliefs, disability or sexual orientation For specified groups like the Jews, genocide was the Nazis’ primary goal. According to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM), the Holocaust was “the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of six million Jewish men, women and children by the Nazi regime and its collaborators”.[1]

      Including 7.8 million soviet civilians and POWs in the count kind of seems like a revisionist definition of what the holocaust was to include anyone killed in the war. To undermine how much focus was on the jews pre-war.

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        To be fair, the Soviet citizens were targeted because of their ethnicity. Slavics were considered sub human like Jews.

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        Then you’d have to also look at deaths before the war for every group…

        Like, you get that right?

        Do you just not know most of the death wasn’t till Nazis understood they were likely going to lose the war?

        That’s not a rhetorical question. To understand how to best explain this it helps if I know this is something you’ve thought about more than clicking on the Wikipedia link from a social media comment 2 minutes ago.

        Where do I need to start explaining stuff here?

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      I’ve always heard the figure being 12 million total. I actually saw an older piece of material recently that mentioned the total as being 11 million.i agree that saying Jews were a majority is incorrect and misleading but I don’t think it’s intentional misinformation. It was the largest individual group.

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        but I don’t think it’s intentional misinformation.

        Are you saying this one journalist who wrote the article wasn’t intentionally spreading it as propaganda this time?

        Cuz I could believe that, that’s how 80 years of propaganda works.

        Unless you’re as old as Joe Biden, it’s been getting spread longer than we’ve been alive.

        But people genuinely believing it doesn’t make it fucking better, sure as shit don’t make it true.

        Look at all the shit trump supporters believe, sincerity of belief is not as important as the factual merit.

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          God damn. Go touch grass. Why do you think it’s acceptable to get so antagonistic when people share a reasonable thought of their own?

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    A holocaust/genocide studies professor once told me there were two categories of holocaust deniers, and while the former were fools, the latter truly scared him:

    1. “It didn’t happen.”

    2. “It wasn’t a holocaust because they didn’t finish the job.

    This is veering into #2 territory when you view these deaths as some sort of portion that had “overcrowding.”

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    It is truly insane to me that the one party in this country has moved into straight-up holocaust denial, but the only thing that will get you labeled an antisemite by either party is suggesting we politely ask Israel to do a little less genocide with the weapons we give them.

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    They’ve been called Nazis so much, they have to downplay what the Nazis did (and what they’d like to do). They can’t believe they’re becoming monsters.

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    You’re not a REAL JEW unless you vote for the Republicans Rewriting the Holocaust!

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    Cooper also framed the slaughter of millions of people, most of them Jewish, as a logistical failure. Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, he said, entered Germany into “a war where they were completely unprepared to deal with the millions and millions of prisoners of war, of local political prisoners.”

    “They went in with no plan for that and they just threw these people into camps,” he added. “And millions of people ended up dead there.”

    Poor little nazis, kek.

    That ‘historian’ is to be bullied from every college debate club.