“What I have a problem with is the fact that if you are running for president, you are the de facto leader of your party,” she said. “You are the leader of your party, and if you run for years and years and years and years and years in a row and your party has not grown and you don’t add city council seats and you don’t add down-ballot candidates and you don’t add state electeds, that’s bad leadership.”
“If you have been your party’s nominee for 12 years in a row – four years ago and four years before that and four years before that – and you cannot grow your movement pretty much at all and can’t pursue any successful strategy and all you do is show up once every four years to speak to people who are justifiably pissed off but you’re just showing up once every four years to do that, you’re not serious.”
What’s seriously predatory is pretending your candidate is ‘working tirelessly for a ceasefire’ when in reality they’re actively arming and funding genocide.
That redirection was Stein’s response. AOC’s statement is 100% on point and Stein didn’t have anything to say on it.
Elections are not the time to be “fixing things”. Elections are for deciding on who has the best tools at the moment to fix things once the election is settled. Jill Stein doesn’t have any tools at all (unless you want to be crass and call her and her supporters tools), so all she can do is criticize what the other guys have and hope maybe they’ll get mad enough to drop some at her.
I was being facetious but the internet don’t let that be do.
I feel that a handful of folks will not allow Lemmy to entertain any space between being liberal and full throating Palestine. Like I have no politics when it comes to Israel and wholly support Palestine’s right to statehood… but that make me genocidal…
AOC has a very valid point here.
That redirection was Stein’s response. AOC’s statement is 100% on point and Stein didn’t have anything to say on it.
Elections are not the time to be “fixing things”. Elections are for deciding on who has the best tools at the moment to fix things once the election is settled. Jill Stein doesn’t have any tools at all (unless you want to be crass and call her and her supporters tools), so all she can do is criticize what the other guys have and hope maybe they’ll get mad enough to drop some at her.
So why do you support genocide?
Agreeing with AOC that Jill Stein is ineffectual at growing the Green Party is supporting genocide?
They can’t refute anything you just posted, so they slap GeNoCiDe on you and run away.
I hate getting genocide slapped.
NO. Not at all.
I was being facetious but the internet don’t let that be do.
I feel that a handful of folks will not allow Lemmy to entertain any space between being liberal and full throating Palestine. Like I have no politics when it comes to Israel and wholly support Palestine’s right to statehood… but that make me genocidal…
I respect the lack of /s, I never use it myself.
Lots of people have been treating Jill like she’s the anti-genocide choice right now without considering her views on the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Without considering the politics at large!
No one is allowed to be liberal if they’re not literally screaming Palestinian slogans non-stop…
If you support a cause you’re still the enemy… If you’re liberal you are against the left…? Wtf?
I wonder how organic it is at times.
A lot of it reminds me of the 4chan chuds co-opting the Bernie bro movement during the 2016 election cycle.
And at that time I kept wondering… who the fuck is a Bernie bro? Was genously perplexed…