It is probably due to a number of people stopping using their alts after some instance hopping.

Also a few people who came to see how it was, and weren’t attracted enough to become regular visitors.

Curious to see at which number we’ll stabilize.

Next peak will probably happen after either major features release (e.g. exhaustive mod tools allowing reluctant communities to move from Reddit) or the next Reddit fuck up (e.g. removing old.reddit)

Stats on each server: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

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    Pretty sure it’s going to just be like 12 of us. If the third party app thing on reddit didn’t drive users here, unfortunately I don’t think anything else will. At this point if you are already content with the reddit app it’s going to be a hard sell to say, yeah come check out Lemmy, it’s like reddit but if you have a question about your sick betta fish instead of getting a helpful answer in a few minutes, you need to first create a betta fish community, then go back on reddit and recruit users to your Lemmy community. Post content on it daily to maintain interest, and then, if you are really lucky, ask your question and wait a few months and maybe if your fish is still alive (doubtful), you might get a response, but it will probably be just be an anticapitalist shit-post. I’m sorry to say it is this way, but this be the way that it is.

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      Pretty sure it’s going to just be like 12 of us

      Hexbear has been very active for 3 years before we even federated. There’s plenty of room for growth. We’re not going to become reddit (and that’s a good thing) but acting like it’s just going to die (or is already dead) is just ridiculous

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        Hexbear has become a cesspool. Not exactly a great example to aspire to. I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day. I very much enjoyed that experience and want it back. I’m sure plenty of others do to. Im just disappointed that it seems much more likely that Lemmy fizzles than soars. I can’t emphasize enough how big and bad a deal the stripping of third party API access to reddit data is. I wish more people felt more strongly about this beyond posting pictures of John Oliver. Not sure if you are old enough to remember when high quality RSS feeds were a thing, but this direct access to data that users could custom curate was amazing. When you take control of how users consent data, you start to take control of the users. Lemmy has immense potential and at face value people are largely fed up with being manipulated and taken advantage of by internet giants, but most are clearly not fed up enough to leave their comfort zone. Spez and the others are well aware of this and happy to take advantage. It takes a ton of effort to keep something like Lemmy afloat. Just like a new restaurant, if after a few months it’s not taking off, it’s pretty unlikely to do so with more time. I hope I’m wrong, but the Spez nonsense was a huge gift to growing Lemmy, and in the grand scheme of things the effect was quite small.

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          Hexbear has become a cesspool

          Hexbear is an aggressively inclusive space full of thoughtful people who are passionate about making the world a better place and educating their fellow man. If every online space were more like hexbear we’d all be much better off

          I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day. I very much enjoyed that experience and want it back. I’m sure plenty of others do to

          Oh yeah back in the good old days of /r/jailbait and /r/creepshots and /r/sexwithdogs

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            Lol… so inclusive wanting to bring down America, listing out a bunch of people you’d love to get rid of (anyone you consider bourgeoise), unyielding fanboying of China…

            I think the overall Lemmy experience has gone downhill since hexbear federated. I also think seeing the propaganda posts constantly hitting the All feed will drive people away. Are there even any non-political hexbear communities? All I ever see are anti-is and pro-China posts.

            I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China. Not the most stellar LGBTQIA+ record there.

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              Everything is political. We have comms that we don’t consider political, but you would still consider them political because you would rather they cater to your politics rather than ours. We have !games@hexbear.net for example, but because it’s not a liberal comm you would consider it political.

              I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China

              You’re literally professing your support for trans rights and simping for the US in one comment so you must be mega confused

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                We have comms that we don’t consider political, but you would still consider them political because you would rather they cater to your politics rather than ours. We have !games@hexbear.net for example, but because it’s not a liberal comm you would consider it political

                This sounds like treating politics like religion. No thanks.

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                Not having America around to keep Russia and China in check sounds great for humanity 👍

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              I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for the USA. Not the most stellar LGBTQIA+ record there.

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              If you can’t wrap your head around being trans and supporting China you need to stop consuming MSM and examine your assumptions.

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                @sharedburdens

                Good for you! They cloak not only in that, but in Human Rights and Democracy. Yeah, right, sure Sleepy Joe. :-) My gay daughter hates Putin and loves the war because Russia doesn’t accept homesexualtiy. I think that’s a very poor reason to go to war, especially when the raesons stated aren’t true. It’s colonialism all over again. Russia has all the raw materials and rare earth metals that the west covets.

                @LoopingRiver

                > I live in the US and it’ pretty bad for LGBT people here. I don’t feel the need to cheerlead US interventions because they have a coat of rainbow paint.

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              I am critical of China and I’ve never been attacked for it on Hexbear. It’s ok if you approach topics in good faith and have nuanced arguments rather than just “CPC evil”.

              Personally I think wanting to destroy the American state as it is today and historically is actually very inclusive.

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              so inclusive wanting to bring down America

              Paradox of tolerance, babyyy

              I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China.

              Cuba supports both

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              You got brigaded hard friend. I guess tankies gonna tank. We should just ship y’all to China.

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              I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China. Not the most stellar LGBTQIA+ record there.

              Yeah, it reminds me of the behavior found on 4chan. A lot of the things I’ve heard about hexbear - someone made a mega post about their userbase and how it’s filled with trolls, just lines right up with 4chan type mentality and pushing contrarian ideologies that are meant to put people in an uproar - like ragebaiting.

              And then all hear from hexbear users is this creepy rhetoric about how they’re free thinker with ideas or some shit. Sounds like what Jehovah Witnesses say to get people to join their cult.

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            how come everything I hear about hexbear sounds like 4chan though? Like there even seems to be mimic of the 4chan lgbt board mentality coming from hexbear users.

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          I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit

          hitler-detector

          I wish more people felt more strongly about this beyond posting pictures of John Oliver

          that’s liberals for you

          Hexbear is the new world and you’re stuck in the old

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          I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day

          reddit back in the day had a huge jailbait sub

          Hexbear has become a cesspool

          lol

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              You think collectively antagonizing, using “libs” in a derogatory form and calling others “imperialist running dogs” constitutes as defense and not toxic behavior?

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                Calling out imperialist running dogs isn’t toxic. Just like being aggressively anti-racist isn’t toxic. If a person upholds capitalism, which is by nature exploitive and anti-egalitarian, they are toxic and deserving of rebuke.

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                  So as long as they don’t ideologically agree with you it’s acceptable to be toxic towards them, because their “wrong ideology” makes them toxic?

                  Are you also aware that most of the proletariats unknowingly uphold capitalism? Considering you say they’re toxic are you against the proletariat or are you a fake socialist trying to create a class divide, the ones who agree with you and the ones who don’t, within the proletariat?

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                    if you asked questions in good faith, you’d know that the community is also aggressively welcoming to such people, even when we disagree. but you don’t so you won’t.

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                    Those are good questions that you could get good honest answers to if you wanted. Other hexbearians are much more articulate than me.

                    We are aggressively welcoming to anyone who’s genuinely just trying to learn. stalin-approval

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                    So as long as they don’t ideologically agree with you it’s acceptable to be toxic towards them, because their “wrong ideology” makes them toxic?

                    Think about this in the context of, idk, race science or something. Let’s say you have someone who is openly a big fan of Charles Murray, owns a copy of The Bellcurve, gets the whole nine yards. Would you deny that such a person is necessarily toxic?

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              “insult” sure.

              He effectively called a porcupine spikey.

              What’s funny about hexbear is the users reflexively rise to the fight every single time, they can’t just scroll past.

              Taiwan #1

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                yes, it’s on purpose - we actively discourage lurking and encourage engaging with bad takes. the more you complain about it, the harder we go at it.

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                  “bad take” really depends what side of the echo chamber you are on.

                  Y’all respond to criticism like kim jong un is standing right behind you lol

                  Also we aren’t in hexbear right now

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                    obviously whether a take is bad or not depends on your politics. it’s so obvious I’m surprised you’d bother pointing it out.

                    Y’all respond to criticism like kim jong un is standing right behind you lol

                    this isn’t criticism. it’s just a snide aside.

                    Also we aren’t in hexbear right now

                    again, obviously.

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                “insult” sure.

                He effectively called a porcupine spikey.

                Wonder how the porcupine got its spikes . . . Must be its authoritarian personality!

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              Nah more like accidentally stepping in shit in the street, but you do you.

              Taiwan #1

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          I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day.

          A libertarian infested hell site that was most well known for just being 4chan lite and actively harbouring pedo communities?

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      12 of us

      I’m fine with 12 of us if everyone is active.

      Hopefully by then we’ll have a few active communities and not hundreds of ghost towns like now

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      Long time hexbear user, I’ve actually had pretty good luck getting input on non-political questions. No sick fish, but I’ve asked quite a variety of questions and gotten help. Maybe I would have gotten a higher quality answer on Reddit, but my experience with modern reddit (last 6ish years) has been hit or miss. Reminds me in a way of the forums I used back in the really 2000s. Even though the forums I was on were primarily oriented around tabletop gaming, the “general/off-topic” sections would have quite a variety of people and interests. And those people, since they all had a common interest, were far more talkative and generous with their time than what I’ve experienced in Reddit. IMO this makes up for the smaller population. Hexbear has that vibe for me, just with a non-sectarian socialist shitposting focus. Which works for me.

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      Summed up my feelings too. Reddit’s larger communities were trash, but for really specific questions, it was unbeatable. Not to mention the fact that most Lemmy pages are either tech-related or tankie propaganda. There’s very little in the way of active hobby/lifestyle boards so unless you’re in either a nerd (non-derogatory) or a communist (derogatory), Lemmy’s not got much going on for you

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      Well, i am here directly due to reddit policy changes. The loss of a viable mobile option forced me here. I can’t believe I am not an average case. I am enjoying this experience so far and will definitely spread the word. But i will continue to use reddit on the computer… I am surprised that there are only 60,000 of us here though.