• grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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    4 months ago

    I think you’ve got stuck on a semantic point. The distinction is between working for money and working for utility.

    Both rely on incentives, just different ones. Money doesn’t have to be tied to actual value or utility.

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      3 months ago

      Dude, what are you even talking about?

      You still work. You’ll still have a boss because work still needs to be coordinated or group output would fall to single digit percentages of what’s actually possible. You will still have to pick upshitty tasks because somebody has to…

      Taking money out of that equation is the semantic, that is the least of the issue, but also the issue that actually makes things easier, you get a generic interchangeable good that you can use to purchase whatever it is that you need. You want to get rid of the one thing that makes things actually easier.

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        3 months ago

        Thanks for your reply. You could even still use money in the process as long as accumulating more of it (or capital more specifically) wasn’t the goal of the work. You see a kind of diet version of this for example with public benefit corporations. Obviously, working for one of those would definitely be a job, though.

        Anyway I’m getting way off the original point (which I actually don’t remember), but I think you get the picture I’m painting.

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          3 months ago

          Look, like it or not, but capitalism is absolutely the most powerful system for people to improve and grow. We need to use it in a limited and controlled fashion (very strict laws against monopoly, etc) to fund a socialist network on too of that that uses the funds to ensure everyone had free healthcare, free education, housing where needed, etc. make sure no-one can brote than 10 times richer than the poorest person out there by applying taxes as needed, more money,ore taxes.