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      Old man doesn’t want to face someone nearly 20 years younger than him. Who’s too old to do the job now, Don?

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    When he is asking for changes its more than claims. People don’t do things for no reason and fear is the only valid reason.

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    Ultimately, it’s his call.

    This is checks calendar 2024. Candidates don’t need to debate, they all have to agree to it. If Trump doesn’t want to debate, then it’s not going to happen unless they basically give into his demands, because ignoring debates no longer looks bad (which is insane, but here we are).

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      I think debates don’t really matter anymore because what these people say and do is reported on constantly all day every day. That wasn’t how it used to be.

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        That’s not necessarily represenative of how they act in person, spontaneously.

        I go in assuming all social media is basically a lie.

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    Trump should definitely wear his extra strength diaper when he takes the debate stage with Harris.

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        I don’t know what to say. I watched the whole thing and he did far from fine. I still would have voted for him, but it was terrible. My wife had to leave the room.

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            Yes but Trump was terrible in the exact same way he has always been terrible. It wasn’t new.

            Biden was terrible in a way that’s kind of sad to watch, especially for anyone with aging parents. Dude shouldn’t be running the country.

            And again, I can’t stress enough, Trump also shouldn’t be running the country, but in a way that wasn’t new to anyone. It didn’t change any minds.

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              It changed enough minds for Biden to be convinced to hand off his campaign to Kamala, so something good came out of it.

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          Nope, watched the first 30 minutes of it. Unless he had a literal stroke the last half hour. He did fine. Just looked old and tired, which apparently means he did awful in the debate. Meanwhile, trump lied constantly, and didn’t answer half of the questions he was asked. But all anybody talked about after the debate is how bad Biden did, and how he should step down.

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            I think it’s about expectations .Trump has always been llike this, no one expected anything different, but the Biden’s campaign set the expectation of a youthful old guy.

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              I would believe that. I still think the media crucified him unnecessarily after the debate. Plenty of shitty policies to criticize him over. I’m honestly surprised at how quickly people turned on him after most people on here saying he’s old, but he’s doing OK as president and ill vote for him. Makes me wonder if lemmy has the same bot problem everywhere else does.

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                Axios had a good quote on this. “Hell hath no fury like a press corps scorned.”

                Basically, Biden’s campaign and presidency have been constantly telling the press corps that he’s totally fine and spry, which was a total lie they were covering up. It made the press look like idiots, and they were pissed, so they did their job and dug and hyped everything they could find, and everything they had been sitting on, after the debate.

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            The media is the reason Biden did bad at the debate. I agree with you. Biden didn’t have the best showing, but if you listened to what he said, he made good points and answered questions well enough. He did lose track and mumbled some, which is part speech impediment and part age, but not a new phenomenon. Trump lied about every, didn’t answer many questions, and sounded like an idiot. Yet after the debate no news stations said anything about how shitty Trump was, just how old Biden is.

            I hope him stepping down works out, but the media made him lose the debate, not his performance against someone who did worse.

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              the media made him lose the debate, not his performance against someone who did worse.

              I think you are missing how others are critical of Biden’s performance. This debate and election season was a repeat, absolutely nothing new. It was never going to move huge swaths from one side to the other.

              Biden lost to himself, not to Trump. That doesn’t mean Trump’s performance was good. That absolutely was the biggest story coming out of the debate as that was something different from this rerun of an election.