• ThrowawayOnLemmy@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Well, go find a candidate. Then we can take the option seriously. Till then, you’re just shouting without helping.

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      4 months ago

      Any participation in the discussion helps. Otherwise we stagnate with 80 year old leadership and end up here again in 4 years.

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          4 months ago

          Which is why it is so essential we get it right. And the fact there’s even discussion about it means Biden’s the wrong guy for the job.

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              4 months ago

              Most voters are fascists.

              They aren’t! Left leaning voters are a majority, the problem is we’re suffering under a biased electoral system and a lot of them have lost faith in the potential for government to actually do things for them so many don’t turn out. Issue polling is usually even further left. Stir them up and give them hope for the future rather than just saying “what are you gonna do, he’s worse” as they jettison another ideal to chase the center. It’s a huge problem that right now we’re not up 3-4%, because we need to overshoot to manage the EC bias, and that’s not because the country has gained a lot of fascists, it’s because he’s lost a lot of black, Hispanic, Muslim, and youth votes.

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                  4 months ago

                  That’s just as untrue. Democrats almost always win the popular vote and have been overperforming in every election since Trump. And if you dismiss the idea of a marginal voter and pumping turnout, then nothing you have to say about politics is important because you’re just completely ignoring a critical component in what determines results.