"So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye,” Biden said.

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        4 months ago

        think Biden is too old

        That’s true, and I agree; people his age should not be allowed to run for president. However, that is entirely irrelevant to the question. At this moment the main thing I care about is Trump losing the election. I don’t care who wins, so long as it isn’t someone like Trump. I have no reason to believe replacing Biden will help with either that goal or any ancillary goals, as well as some suspicion that both will be hindered by it. No one else can have an incumbents advantage and you know the DNC isn’t going to put a forth progressive. AOC and Bernie are throwing their weight behind Biden, and a large part of the establishment is turning on him. Take a step back, and ask why that is. It’s weird right? I don’t know what’s happening, but the information available to me suggests that it’s better for Biden to stay in the race, and so that’s what I’m advocating for. Now please provide data to change my mind or fuck off.

        Edit: also, I’m not sure how you think I’m in an echo chamber when people keep screaming at me that I’m wrong, and then when I ask for evidence of how I’m wrong, no one provides anything of substance.

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          4 months ago

          I said that you were cherry picking data, which you absolutely are. I also said you’re in an echo chamber because that is literally what happens when you cherry pick data.

          You responded by not responding to that at all and instead, assholishly, implied that I was a bot in an absolutely not clever way. Seriously, if you are going to imply someone is a bot, be more clever about it.

          That’s true, and I agree; people his age should not be allowed to run for president. However, that is entirely irrelevant to the question. At this moment the main thing I care about is Trump losing the election. I don’t care who wins, so long as it isn’t someone like Trump. I have no reason to believe replacing Biden will help with either that goal or any ancillary goals, as well as some suspicion that both will be hindered by it. No one else can have an incumbents advantage and you know the DNC isn’t going to put a forth progressive. AOC and Bernie are throwing their weight behind Biden, and a large part of the establishment is turning on him. Take a step back, and ask why that is. It’s weird right? I don’t know what’s happening, but the information available to me suggests that it’s better for Biden to stay in the race, and so that’s what I’m advocating for. Now please provide data to change my mind or fuck off.

          Not responding to this, cause fuck you, you don’t get to be an asshole first and then try and be reasonable. I also won’t fuck off. Not something you get to demand on a public forum.

          also, I’m not sure how you think I’m in an echo chamber when people keep screaming at me that I’m wrong, and then when I ask for evidence of how I’m wrong, no one provides anything of substance.

          This I will respond to: You’re in an echo chamber because that is the end result of what happens when people cherry pick their data.

          This is you cherry picking your data:

          Find me a poll that shows Biden losing by more than the margin of error. If the demographic data shows 18 to 20-somethings supporting Trump, it doesn’t count.

          Finally, I’m not responding again. It is absolutely clear that nothing will change your mind, and that you will happily blame the left when Trump gets re-elected instead of where the blame should lie, Biden and his handlers. It’s also clear that you’re an asshole that argues in bad faith, so it is pointless to even talk to you.

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          4 months ago

          There will be plenty of evidence on November 6th, but I’m sure you’ll still be just as far in denial then as you are now.