I’ve been wondering for a bit why during the time the Democrats controlled the legislature, executive, and judicial branches during Obama’s first term in 2008 more wasn’t accomplished. Shouldn’t that have been the opportunity to make Row V Way law and fix the electoral college? I understand the recession was going on but outside of Obamacare getting passed which didnt go far enough it seems like they didn’t really do much with all that power. Are there other important accomplishments from this time that didn’t get the news they deserved? It seems like the voters have done their job in the past to elect people to fix things and yet we are still here begging people to vote to fix issues like abortion rights.

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    but outside of Obamacare getting passed which didnt go far enough

    You’re way underestimating and underemphasizing Obamacare, and the impact it took to get it into law.

    Obamacare was a huge get for the Democrats, and while it wasn’t Medicare for all that we all wanted, especially with the Republicans fighting tooth and nail to deny him, that was a huge win.

    It took a lot of effort in time to get Obamacare, which took all the oxygen out of the room for doing other things.

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        Yeah. Seems like a waste of effort to me. If they’re scraping movies and books illegally then you aren’t gonna stop em with a link at the bottom of a comment.

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        Still going to poison the results and be embarrassing when the LLM starts putting creative commons licensing in its output.

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          😂 but I think 🤔 they have some cleaning process, I don’t know exactly what is called but they remove all anomalies like this 😔. 👍 If this works

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          Yea, but propublica has money to hire lawyers and can actually take companies to court over it.

          Are you prepared to shell out potentially 10’s of thousands of dollars to actually defend your license? That’s my biggest question in this, because if not it really is a waste of time and effort.

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            Are you prepared to shell out potentially 10’s of thousands of dollars to actually defend your license? That’s my biggest question in this, because if not it really is a waste of time and effort.

            Well if the license is flagrantly ignored I’m sure Creative Commons would probably have something to say about it.

            Having said that, I meant for you to also go to the top of that link conversation to read everything that’s been discussed, including my answer to the question you just asked.

            Also, we’re really derailing the topic of the post.

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              I did, but you never really answer the question, are you financially prepared and willing to actually defend your license in court?

              And also your link has become incredibly obnoxious, you don’t need all those “~”

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                Look, it makes them happy, it’s free, and it doesn’t cost you anything. It just kinda doesn’t seem like a big deal.

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                  I should start posting ads and sponsors as my signatures with every comment. This is totally not the start of something awful. It makes me happy, it’s free and doesn’t cost anyone else anything.

                  Next I’m gonna post an image ad and randomise it. Maybe code bots to upvote it to the top. Ayy, you’re on to something. 🤔

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                I did, but you never really answer the question, are you financially prepared and willing to actually defend your license in court?

                I did, both in the link that I originally gave you, as well as replying to your comment directly.

                And also your link has become incredibly obnoxious, you don’t need all those “~”

                That’s a problem with your mobile client, you’ll need to speak to the devs of your client about that.

                It’s not supporting subscript and superscript fonts correctly, per Lemmy’s help page on formatting comments. Also discussed in that original link I gave you.

                If we could stop derailing the current topic?

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      I think that is really the core of it.

      I remember that it took months of discussions, compromises and buttering up specific opposition members to get it passed, and that it was a trimmed-down version of the original Medicare plans.

      I wish I could remember where, but when answering a question very similar to the OP’s - perhaps in an interview? - Obama explained that he would have very much liked to tackle two big things: health care and climate, but that his party’s resources were stretched too thin to do both at the same time and that he knew they would loose control of the house in the midtems (2011), so he picked one thing.

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      Between the time that Obama was sworn in and the ACA getting passed Congress had passed 161 other substantial bills. The major one that was shelved being the freedom of choice act which had already been written and waiting in a vote since 2003.

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        Congress had passed 161 other substantial bills

        [citation required] (bolded part)

        Also, it was all over the news and online and in papers that the ACA and trying to get it passed over the finish line was a lot of hard work, that took a lot of time and effort, that it ‘sucked up all the oxygen in the room’ for other stuff.

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