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      We encourage people to do this for Fox News links.

      While Fox News isn’t actively blacklisted at this time, our stance is that we do prefer other sources/outlets if the same story is available. As I mentioned in another comment, we read both of these articles and they contain basically the same content, so we left this post up, and that is basically how these posts are being evaluated at this time (checking to make sure they aren’t misleading/reporting incorrect information).

      Also as mentioned in my other comment, we do also understand that a lot of users do not want to click Fox News links and support them, so I do also encourage people to post links to other outlets in the comments so users can still read the article if they choose to do so.

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    sourcing an article from fox “news” is insane, so many other places for the same story. fuck fox. really.

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      Our stance is that we prefer if people use other outlets if the same story is available elsewhere, although it isn’t outright blacklisted (at this time).

      We skimmed this article and the article posted above from BBC, and they contain basically the same information so we are leaving it up as it seems this article wasn’t written in bad faith.

      That said, we do understand that users do not want to click Fox News links and support them.

      This is a constant talking point between the mods that is actively monitored and discussed on whether we should continue to allow it, but for the time being, we are just doing our best to encourage users to use other outlets and reading the articles and comparing them to what other outlets have reported to ensure they aren’t misleading or reporting incorrect information before we decide to leave it up.

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    My neighbors are going for 2 weeks in a week. They’ve been planning for more than a year. This will be their last chance to go as a family of 4. I can’t see them canceling.

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      Visiting a burning, inhospitable hellscape where people are actively dying and the rest are having their entire lives destroyed, and doing it for fun because “well, we’ve been planning it for a while, and want to go somewhere as a family and can’t come up with anything else exotic enough for our standards on short notice” is incredibly trashy and selfish.

      They sound like shitty people, honestly, and I hope they have an awful time.

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          We were planning to go in a month and we’re trying to cancel. Virtually none of the companies were willing to offer a refund (including a luau in Lahaina)

          Once the fire started threatening kaanapali our hotel & such has started to offer refunds with an understandably long wait time.

          We just switched islands, but we’re pretty privileged to afford to buy a whole different vacation while waiting on refunds.

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            Damn. I am on the same boat and planning to try and get refunds this week. The resort already offered a credit for up to 2 years but I don’t want a credit, just a refund. How is it going for you?

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              That’s what we were told too. We made a post on Facebook tagging them and what their protocol was, and they reached out and changed their mind.

              Who knows when I’ll get the money back though.

              We booked Kauai and we’re really excited. Definitely cost a couple grand extra for the trip, and we’re owed about 4K in refunds. My heart goes out to those that can’t simply fork out that kinda cash.

              Also if you paid for the hotel with a credit card, most cards offer free travel insurance. You can file a claim there and get a refund.

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          I genuinely don’t care. Using the location of ongoing mass human sufferring as a tourist destination is disgusting and entirely indefensible. “I couldn’t get a refund” is not a valid excuse.

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            Says the rich dude. “Sure, just give up 3k and a week of non-refundable vacation time because internet people will virtue signal”.

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              I’m not rich at all. I’ll never be able to afford to retire, much less drop everything to go to fucking Hawaii on vacation. I’m just not a shitty person with no empathy.

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        Talking of ‘having their whole lives destroyed’ - presumably the people actually working in and running the hotels want them there - or else they would be closed

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          presumably the people actually working in and running the hotels want them there - or else they would be closed

          It might not be up to them. I imagine some places are run by shitty corporate overlords that don’t give two shits about the devastation.

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        Oh yeah I bet their economy can handle no tourism when it needs money the most. This is really bad for them. They need to encourage tourism but what is there left?

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          This is happening in the wealthiest nation in human history. The government has an unquestionable obligation to provide relief for these people. Suggesting that keeping the victims of this disaster in the area and going to work while their homes are still burning is an acceptable answer is revolting. Fuck this disgusting “but what about the economy” attitude.

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      We went to the big island during an eruption in 2018. I didn’t want to go but my family wouldn’t cancel. The air was full of vog. It was gross and everyone in our group was cranky. I’m sure your neighbor will not get the trip they planned for.

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      If we forced airlines to honor rescheduling for not a huge cost then this wouldn’t be as much of an issue. But I imagine those thousands in ticket prices can’t really be burned without canceling the trip for the foreseeable future.

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      Nows the time for them to use that travel insurance and get a full refund. They may be putting themselves in danger and, regardless, they will be vacationing where people are actively suffering.

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    I know this is more “celebrity” than news, but I’d seen discussions on whether it was better to visit (as a misguided attempt to help via tourism dollars) or stay away.

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      I think there’s a strong argument for traveling there to spend tourist dollars and help them recover economically.

      But like…not when the fires are still raging out of control, maybe? You’ll just be in the way.