• Gucci_Minh [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      If I had a sufficiently powerful laser I could point it at one of the retroreflectors they put up there and get a reflection back, there is actual proof, and the fact that the Soviets even acknowledged it says a lot about its veracity. Do you think that just because some of the stuff that the US says is true that I’m to take the other things at face value without proof? If NBC cites CBS cites AP cites Reuters cites CBS cites NBC… am I supposed to just be like oh well there’s a lot of citations so clearly it must be true? Please try to challenge this “west good by default” mindset that you have, it clouds your judgment.

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        Oh, good response. I should keep this in mind in the future when people try to call us “conspiracy theorists.” Establishing that we believe in things that have evidence behind them, and don’t just say everything the US says is a lie.

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          Many leftists conspiracy theories are just “Yeah, the US toppled this government and slaughtered a huge number of people. Here’s the CIA written article on the CIA website where they admit to it”.

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            I guess that’s why people never listen to us. Our conspiracy theories are boring. They’re all “shady government agents doing exactly what you’d expect them to do.”

            We don’t get any fun stuff like secret cabals or lizard people or hologram moons. It’s all just real world espionage shit, which is much less fun and exciting than James Bond.

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              Just came from a forum thread where OP was like “i don’t want to be a conspiracist but I think tech companies are working together to suppress tech workers!” And I had to be all yeah bruh they go caught ten years ago and had to pay some fines and pinky promoise not to get caught again. Shit’s exhausting I hate it here I wanna go live in Tamriel.

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        That guy probably believes Iraq had weapons of mass destructions.

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          Of course they did! They bought them from the French and used them with the knowledge and support of the US in the Iran-Iraq war!

          They didn’t have any weapons of mass destruction in 2003, of course.

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        This is all silly! The moon landings were faked. They had Kubrick film it! Of course Kubrick being Kubrick he insisted on filming on location…

        My favorite “The moon landings were faked” is the old 90s game Battlezone. In Battlezone the moon landings really happened… but they were a cover up because the US sent a secret army of advanced hover-tanks to the moon to gather a nigh-magical unobtanium resource as part of their solar-system spanning secret war with the Soviets. In the first cut-scene the camera pulls back from the Apollo site to show the secret high tech US army base. It was a fun game. Shame about the anti-communsit brainworms. A hybrid FPS/RTS vehicle sim. Cool concept, if a little clunky.