It’s basically the philosophy that it is wrong to have children. But what is the material cause to this belief, along with other beliefs that antinatalists have? (including efilism, basically the philosophy that all life should end)

  • Demoncracy@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    what is the material cause to this belief

    People not being able to afford to live with dignity themselves acknowledging they’re even less likely to afford it when they have to take care of a child or children.

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      I think “I can’t afford to take good care of a kid” is different from reddit-logo style “DAE crotch spawn noisy babies annoying” stuff you see from anti-natalists.

      It could be nice but I can’t afford it =/ Nobody should have kids because it is wrong.

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        A lot of it is cope twisting itself into an aspect of one’s personality, essentially justifying your lack of options as a preference or Malthusian ideology. The mind twists it from “it is impossible to have a baby and I am required to be okay with this” into either “I HATE BABIES AND WANT THEM THROWN INTO THE SUN” or “you are a loser and a bad person for having a baby.”

        The takes that antinatalists have are very similar to the takes that schoolkids have about which game console is better for a reason. The capitalist system won’t allow you to come to grips with it as a deliberate failure of a system which must be overthrown violently, it is only allowed to be a consumptive preference.

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        The connection you’re missing is general environmental anxiety so it’s “the average person does not have the means to raise a child” + “the human environment is changing for the worse in the near future” = “it’s wrong for people to have kids”

        Afaik the “dae crotch goblins” came about die to a good old echo chamber