Hamas just fired some rockets from north gaza this morning, Rafah isn’t the last stronghold of Hamas, it’s the last stronghold of Palestinian children and women

Rafah is considered to be the last stronghold of Hamas

By who? There’s a great argument that this war exposed Israel’s intelligence as sorely lacking, and they have a vested interest in declaring victory.

I was expecting this whole operation to result in the destruction or near-destruction of Israel

I think it’s far more likely we see a resolution closer to post-apartheid South Africa.

I disagree with you. There are lots of factors involved here, but consider some things

1. A War is about politics. What Hamas did put Israel regime under a lot of pressure in a moment when they were already not doing well. Now israel has a hard internal and external situation.
2. As some put, “if a guerrilla doest lose, it already won”. Israel is doing very well in its genocide campaing, but they are not winning on the combat with armed people.

Even if Hamas lost the combat tomorrow, Israel is politically too fragile. In time, this will result in serious consequences. Look at Iraq right now: the usa position in this country was very fragile, and now that this crisis arrived, they are being taken out. And the end of all of this, they (iraqs) will emerge as a more sovereing country. Wait and see what will happen in Oman and Jordania.

That being said, i dont think Hamas will lose military as things are, but Burguersam can always interfere. Theres a reason why Israel is trying to start a war with lebanon, they want things to get “out of control” so that the usa “needs” to intervene. Why?

Look at Vietnan War history. Look at the history of the palestine combats. Look at the history of south africa, chinese revolution, Leningrad, cuban revolution etc. The history of glorious Haiti defying fuckin Napoleon. You dont need to have faith, you need to know history better to undertand The Power of resistance

Remember that “Israel” occupied all of Palestine, including Gaza and the West Bank, for many years after the 1967 war and it still wasn’t enough to destroy the resistance.

Has long as the Palestinian people exist, and as long as their land remains occupied by settlers, their struggle will not be over.

I was expecting this whole operation to result in the destruction or near-destruction of Israel

How? That is simply not realistic considering the scope of this conflict. Israel has infinitely more resources and more manpower, this has always been a case of asymmetrical warfare.

There isn’t enough being done by other nations to stop Israel.

This is being done precisely because NATO and the US supports Israel and sends them weapons and funding. They value their own interests in the region more highly than the lives of Palestinians. In fact, Israel wouldn’t even exist without foreign support.
This conflict will only be resolved when supporting Israel becomes more trouble than it is worth, either because of the political turmoil at home is not worth the benefits, because the money spent on it outweights the profits, or simply because the crumbling empire no longer has the means to support it’s vassals.
It’s imperative to organize at home and to agitate against Israel if you’re an USian, it might not seem like much but the more you pressure your government to stop supporting genocide abroad the closer we are to resolving this conflict.

The Zionist entity is trying to pick a fight with every neighbor, and the US is trying to provoke Iran. I wouldn’t assume this is the end if I were you. Decades happening in weeks right now.

What you have to remember is that the US deliberately parked the Navy right off the coast of Palestine for the sole purpose of keeping anyone from sending a force to intervene. All the lack of help for Palestineans is part of the plan.

Roses are red

Violets are blue

The moral arc of history bends towards justice

Can’t have an ethnostate these days

From my very smooth brain understanding of things…

The nation of Palestine, currently, is a series of territories where the Palestinian people have been forced in to by the Israeli Occupation Forces. Each territory is pretty much independent from the others as they are cut off from each other by the IOF. So if Hamas is completely destroyed or is depleted to a point of being a non-actor, Palestinians will still exist. At least for a while. I’m not sure what Hamas’ goal was in kicking over the hornets nest that they did, maybe it was to “die on their feet instead of their knees” or maybe it was a desperate attempt to “bring attention to the quiet genocide being committed by the Israeli government” but it was never going to be “completely destroy the nation of Israel and retake their lands.”

But Israel’s reputation on the world stage has been deeply damaged in a way that is going to be very hard to repair or ignore. I’m not sure how much that matters but its not nothing.

It seems they’re completely occupied but are still fighting in the rubble

I don’t consider them to be in a favorable position. I’m not sure many positive changes in the world happen from favorable positions, though.

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=VwcKwGS7OSQ

You thought that the attack on 7th of October wouldn’t lead to retaliation?

Most went as I did expect it. If fewer civilians would’ve been killed in the initial attack and not so many people be taken as hostage, then I don’t think most of the destruction we see now would’ve been the case, as limited effect with a focus on primary military targets might’ve kept the refusenik opposition in Israel alive.

However the Nova massacre and alike created a situation in which Muslim Arab Israelis (or Palestinian Israelis) identify with the state of Israel 70% more than with other attributes, the highest value in decades. It also led to plenty leftists, many who knew people killed, to prioritize “safety”.

The death of some of the more prominent kibbutzim that were left voices for a shared land solution, that tried to connect the people and workers in the areas also let to plenty unpolitical people to believe more into a narrative of genocidal Hamas and widespread male support in Gaza for them and for violence against Jews.

The Israeli Arab (own self labeling) I know who worked with queer refugees from “Arab countries”, including Gaza, tells that his family is quite angry. Hamas or someone with them targeted Arabs, too, and Arabs did try to save people and often did. Previously they were not very friendly with military in Israel and against plenty conservatives, now Muslim school friends of his are in the IDF.

I do think that Israel is now more unified internally than before. I did not think that Hamas and others had enough troops to hold territory and static defenses and tunnels hold their value primary when the opponent can’t use time and control of movement of population to chip the military infrastructure away. This will not be able to neutralize all Hamas members, as they can’t be differentiated in the population, but it will destroy building and the social conditions for regular life during the hot phases of conflict.

I did expect Egypt to open borders though and allow non military aged people to seek refugee.

Israel itself has a government that will keep using force as long as hostage are alive and bodies are kept, unless some harsh economic or political change happens. At least till the 8th of October of this year there will be support for continued military operations in Gaza. Likely in two-four month the ground operations in Gaza will be declared as “complete” (once every area was under direct Israeli control).

Those are just things that are the another perspective.

Your view ignores international pressure a bit, but in terms of internal logic of the conflict on the ground your outlook is true. No surrounding state is materially attacking Israel.