• StarManta@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Actors are not expected to be knowledgeable about weapons. If they are required to check their own weapons, they would not do so competently, and may come to incorrect conclusions. This could add incompetent confusion about the weapon safety to the situation, and that’s bad for safety.

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      1 year ago

      It takes like two minutes to learn how to safely check a gun. Surely they spend more than that learning walking to the set from the parking lot.

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        The nature of how firearms are used in film generally requires breaking the normal fundamental rules of firearm safety. You can’t just give somebody a quick rundown of the “four rules” and call it good.

        Further, they’re also often modified in ways that change what safety factors need to be considered.

        It’s the job of the on-set armorer to make sure firearms are safe and used in a safe manner because it’s not reasonable to expect actors who are firearms laymen to understand everything that plays a factor in what is or isn’t safe.

        I do think this case is a little different, but that primarily has to do with Baldwin being a producer.

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        Safely check WHICH gun?

        The live firing weapon? The blank firing gun? The resin replica? Are they expected to remove any rounds in a firearm, be it live or replica, and verify that it is indeed a blank?

        No. That is ONE person’s job for a reason. That is the firearms expert’s job. Nobody else’s.

        You accept that responsibility with the job.

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            The one in their hand.

            So they need to be trained how to spot the difference between a live and blank round and how to check every firearm on the set.

            OR

            You could just have one person that’s an expert on firearms do that for everyone, thereby eliminating any possibility that an untrained know-nothing actor accidentally lights off a round while fumblefucking with a firearm they know nothing about, trying to check it.

            Hey genius, what good does “checking” a firearm do if they’re literally there to fire off blank rounds?

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      They don’t even need to know how to check a gun. They just need to follow the safety protocols and not point it at someone. Pointing a real gun, which this was, at something you are not ok destroying is a violation of basic firearms safety, 82nd airborne or not.

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        Being an actor requires pointing guns at people, it’s just part of the job. You can’t apply gun safety to things that are supposed to be harmless props. That’s why it really isn’t his fault for pointing a prop at someone and pulling the trigger, it’s the fault of the armouror for handing him something that wasn’t a prop.

        Granted, he hired an under qualified armouror, didn’t take safety seriously, and allowed the stage gyns to be used with real ammo, and that’s all on Alex the producer from a civil liability standpoint. But it’s not a slight against Alex the actor

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          Dude. Read up on this. Guns pointed at others are rubber replicas. (Great vids about this on Adam Savage’s YT channel). This was a real gun. Those are not pointed at people. Down vote away.