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Israel has declassified more than 30 secret orders made by government and military leaders, which it says rebut the charge that it committed genocide in Gaza, and instead show Israeli efforts to diminish deaths among Palestinian civilians.
The release of the documents, copies of which were reviewed by The New York Times, follows a petition to the International Court of Justice by South Africa, which has accused Israel of genocide. Much of South Africa’s case hinges on inflammatory public statements made by Israeli leaders that it says are proof of intent to commit genocide.
Part of Israel’s defense is to prove that whatever politicians may have said in public was overruled by executive decisions and official orders from Israel’s war cabinet and its military’s high command.
The court, the U.N.’s highest judicial body, began hearing arguments in the case this month, and is expected to provide an initial response to South Africa’s petition — in which it could call for a provisional cease-fire — as soon as Friday.
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So they were publicly making genocidal statements while giving their military secret orders to play nice.
Basically the opposite of every war ever.
Also they were “playing nice” so much that they killed Israelis because they felt like killing someone
They were so careful they killed more civilians in the last 3 months than were killed in the first 3 months of almost every war since WW2.
Do you really think that ~20K civilians is more than were killed in almost every war since WWII? That’s extremely untrue.
Per conflict. Not combined. Even the larger conflicts that were relatively indiscriminate took a long time to ramp up and kill so many civilians.
Ukraine recorded the same amount in ~18 months.
The Iraq war averaged the same amount (20-30k) per YEAR.
Even Vietnam averaged about 10-15k civilians in the same amount of time.
Also, the population of all of the above is/was 10-20x larger than Gaza.
I know little of past wars, but you seem to know a little less.
In general, orders to play nice were given from the top because they needed the infrastructure kept intact as much as possible and make it cheaper to rebuild after. But those orders got diluted as they went down the command chain because there was no such thing as absolute control over an entire army.
And even if the orders were disobeyed, there wasn’t much punishment given after the fact in order to avoid the chance of rebellion.So these orders can be factually correct, but also just paper to wipe their asses with.
I’m not talking about the difference between policies issued from the top and the behavior of soldiers in the field—I’m talking about the difference between public statements and secret orders.
Ahh yes, 30. I’m sure that’s all the orders given over weeks of campaign.
Either the military must really suck at following orders if what’s happening is them trying reduce civilian deaths, or they were going for more but 25,000 dead is the reduced number.
Objectivity: consistently measure by actions, not by mere-assertions, no matter whether those assertions are on paper, or not.
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Seems like a tacit admission at very least that to anyone without access to these internal documents the accusation of genocide is reasonable. Interesting.
Bibi said that’s there no end to this war with a Palestinian State. All the secret memos in the world aren’t going to cover up the blatant calling for Genocide.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Israel has declassified more than 30 secret orders made by government and military leaders, which it says rebut the charge that it committed genocide in Gaza, and instead show Israeli efforts to diminish deaths among Palestinian civilians.
The court, the U.N.’s highest judicial body, began hearing arguments in the case this month, and is expected to provide an initial response to South Africa’s petition — in which it could call for a provisional cease-fire — as soon as Friday.
Among the declassified Israeli documents are summaries of cabinet discussions from late October, in which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered supplies of aid, fuel and water to be sent to Gaza.
“The prime minister stressed time and again the need to increase significantly the humanitarian aid in the Gaza Strip,” reads one declassified document that Israel’s lawyers said was taken from the minutes of a cabinet meeting on Nov. 14.
Israel has also submitted to the court a handful of emails between military officers and aid workers that it says shows its efforts to supply Gaza with food, medicine and vaccinations.
One email, from a senior U.N. official to an Israeli officer overseeing aid distribution to Gaza, detailed an approved request to deliver solar-powered refrigerators to the territory to store vaccines and lab tests.
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NYT being a mouthpiece for the apartheid regime just like they always are for cops. Fucking bootlicker rag 🤬
