• Upgrade2754@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m interested in understanding why so many have picked Joe Biden. According to several top posts, Lemmy is supposedly left wing, yet the vast majority are voting for a conservative democrat over the progressive.

    Does anyone here actually care about pushing against dark money, treating climate change like an existential threat, and fighting for universal health care? What’s drawing you to voting for him? Looking forward to respectful debate

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      1 year ago

      I’m interested in understanding why so many have picked Joe Biden.

      Both his current primary challengers are antivaxxers. Fuck that.

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      1 year ago

      Which candidate between the vaccine denier and the rock worshiper are you suggesting is more likely to be a competent POTUS than the avatar of senility?

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      Well Biden is the incumbent so no one’s really running against him and I believe right now he’s the Dem with the best chance to win in the general. Won’t really get to have a choice on the Dem side until 2024

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          I’m going to assume you’re acting in good faith, but I hope you realize how ridiculous that argument is. The only reason this is so is because the DNC is systematically shutting down the primary process and so elected politicians would be harming their negotiations by supporting challengers.

          They for sure align more with Marianne WIlliamson whose policy page is the most detailed and progressive I’ve ever seen in my lifetime. Meanwhile, Biden is running on “finishing the job” and saying the economy is fine.

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            1 year ago

            Marianne WIlliamson loses a few people when she breaks out the crystals and starts talking about people’s auras.

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              more importantly: the time she compared the Avatar film to the Israel-Palestine conflict, in a room with peacemakers from both sides, talking to them about “the great mother in the film not taking sides” and then proudly telling it to Cameron with cringe-meter-breaking confidence and smug head tilts sprinkled twice with “and do you know what they said” (meanwhile Cameron is just literally speechless at what’s going on). Then she proudly acts out the reaction she got from the peacemakers which was… “slow nodding” (I’m not exaggerating) It’s like a Tina Fey sketch.

              She is beyond being “too California” (as some outlets try to downplay it as). It’s just so randomly tone-deaf, not knowing how to contribute in a very serious setting, verbally shitposting out of awkwardness(?), then incorrectly evaluating people’s politeness as a profound moment of unanimity that she fostered. So she proceeds to boast about it to Cameron.

              Her campaign promises and positions does seem picture-perfect and social-progressive, but these instances does make one question what goes on between her synapses. It’s not hard to copy paste what the youth and the progressives (like me) want into a list to score tiktok points. No wonder why brilliant intellectuals with legit academic backgrounds like AOC and Warren and Sanders back Biden instead of her; an esoteric dropout self-help author with loose-cannon potential in interviews. There is no need for dems to unfairly discredit or disadvantage her. She is one goop away from paltrowing.

              Her self-help background and esotericism in pre-covid times, I could’ve squeezed myself into tolerating for the sake of her policies, but what is beyond infuriating and discerning about this particular fuckup is: People in that room that she was invited to in Israel have given their life trying their best to collectively come up with a peace deal to end an extremely long, historical and ongoing conflict that costs lives and communities. And her reaction is “you know in Avatar…” Like, is she high? Clinically daft? Mocking? What the actual fuck.

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              Can you find for me a single instance between either of her campaigns or in any of her books where she’s talked about crystals or auras?

              I find it appalling that a moderator would say such a thing.

              I’l even steel man your argument for a second. What’s worse: talking about auras or having the ability to reduce the price of all drugs and choosing not to do so, having the ability to fix so many broken families by descheduling marijuana but choosing not to do so, or having the biggest microphone in the world to say how unconscionable it is that we do not have a universal healthcare system and choosing not to do so?

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            There’s checking the boxes on policy positions, and then there’s actually getting them implemented - that’s the hard part. Marianne Williamson hasn’t yet succeeded in even getting elected to any public office - not POTUS, not to Congress, not even to a school board.

            Her campaign is just a vanity campaign that helps her sell books.

            And RFK Jr’s campaign is a right wing ratfuck.

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            While we agree Biden has issues, seeing only RKJR and someone who without looking her up again just triggered “crazy!” In my head, I simply wondered why there wasn’t any progressive candidates listed at all. Marianne has some rep issues to work on. This is from someone who has been out of touch for a bit with politics as in people running, bu5 definitely with leftwing viewpoints. I wouldn’t make a final decision this early, I’d research more before actually voting. But faced with a sudden poll, I don’t like a single person I recognize, and I don’t recognize far more.