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Lemmy.world Hexbear Statement - Lemmy.world
lemmy.worldYesterday, we received information about the planned federation by Hexbear. The
announcement thread can be found here: https://www.hexbear.net/post/280770
[https://www.hexbear.net/post/280770]. After reviewing the thread and the
comments, it became evident that allowing Hexbear to federate would violate our
rules. Our code of conduct and server rules can be found here
[https://lemmy.world/legal]. The announcement included several concerning
statements, as highlighted below: - “Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking
to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to
engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda.
Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will
pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated.” - “The
West’s role in the world, through organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the
World Bank - among many others - are deeply harmful to the billions of people
living both inside and outside of their imperial core.” - “These organizations
constitute the modern imperial order, with the United States at its heart - we
are not fooled by the term “rules-based international order.” It is in the
Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished. When and how this will
occur, and what precisely comes after, is the cause of great debate and
discussion on this site, but it is necessary for a better world.” The rhetoric
and goal of Hexbar are clear based on their announcement: to “dismantle western
propaganda” and "demolish organizations such as NATO” shows that Hexbar has no
intention of "respecting the rules of the community instance in which they are
posting/commenting.” It’s to push their beliefs and ideology. In addition,
several comments from a Hexbear admin, demonstrate that instance rules will not
be respected.
Here are some examples: >“I can assure you there will be no lemmygrad brigades,
that energy would be better funneled into the current war against liberalism on
the wider fediverse.” >“All loyal, honest, active and upright Communists must
unite to oppose the liberal tendencies shown by certain people among us, and set
them on the right path. This is one of the tasks on our ideological front.” -
https://lemmy.world/comment/121850 [https://lemmy.world/comment/121850] -
https://lemmy.world/comment/1487168 [https://lemmy.world/comment/1487168] -
https://lemmy.world/comment/1476084 [https://lemmy.world/comment/1476084] -
https://lemmy.world/comment/171595 [https://lemmy.world/comment/171595] -
https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3648500
[https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3648500] Overall community comments: -
https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3526128
[https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3526128] -
https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3526086
[https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3526086] -
https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3652828
[https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3652828] To clarify, for those who have
inquired about why Hexbear versus Lemmygrad, it should be noted that we are
currently exploring the possibility of defederating from Lemmygrad as well based
on similar comments Hexbear has made. - https://lemmygrad.ml/post/158656
[https://lemmygrad.ml/post/158656] - https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/882559
[https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/882559] - https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/540170
[https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/540170] - https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/446529
[https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/446529] Defederation should only be considered as
a last resort. However, based on their comments and behavior, no positive
outcomes can be expected. We made the decision to preemptively defederate from
Hexbear for these reasons. While we understand that not everyone may agree with
our decision, we believe it is important to prioritize the best interests of our
community.
Get a load of this guy. Apparently, putting forward “beliefs and ideology” are against their code of conduct.
His comment about blocking lemmygrad don’t seem that bad to me, it’s getting a bit annoying seeing lost dotworlders thinking they’re the first one to ever say “communism bad.”
Yeah, they don’t really need any excuse whenever they’ve already manufactured an imaginary enemy out of us. Regardless of how, idk, normal and sane or whatever we all tend to be (because we’re human fucking beings), to them we are
on and on and on. Reading those comments is simply a sight. There is no conversation to be had.
The thing that bugs me the most is the admin worship. I’ll be the first to say as a regular user here, any of you admins start doing silly shit I won’t “respect your decision”, I’ll criticize your asses for it. I know you’ll listen, though, because you’re not petulant liberals who throw tantrums when presented with the mildest criticisms.
Dotworld really does seem to be becoming just like reddit. I thought the whole appeal was decentralization and community building, but I guess it’s really just an ego-fluffing project.
it’s the concern trolling for me. Over, and over, I see things like “oh, they’re saying they won’t ban users for breaking other instances’ rules!” but like… their admins literally never ban people who come try and troll us in here, and the 2 or 3 times I’ve pointed that out I get nothing but downvotes because they don’t have a good response for that
They even have old.lemmy.world, which looks EXACTLY like old Reddit. They want to be Reddit so bad 💀
holy shit i checked it out and 💀
That one I actually appreciate though. Some of the other ones seem as bad as https://sh.reddit.com/
I suspect that dot world is one tool in a larger plan to manage the decline of centralised social media to ensure that the capitalists still control online discourse. I can’t otherwise think of an explanation for how Reddit allowed so many users to flock to a couple of instances. Previously, mentioning Lemmy on Reddit would be hidden from users if not outright deleted. Reddit did not tolerate the competition. Now they plan to defederate from one (soon to be two, no doubt) instances that started on Reddit but were kicked out for left-ist views. And after that they plan to federate with the corporate instances.
I wouldn’t be surprised if dotworld specifically was administered by people related to Reddit Inc. The admins are generally very technically competent and it grew so fast with barely any technical difficulties that I wouldn’t put it past them from being at least supported by some larger tech company.
I wish I was a bot :sicko-yes: