• LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    Then why doesn’t every other culture in capitalist states exhibit even remotely the same degree of social psychosis?

    The school shootings, the murder rate, the mass imprisonments, the death count around the world is around 5 million people in the past two decades.

    You need to explain why the US is quantitatively off the charts compared to other capitalist states.

    Aside, I’m noticing a lot of knee jerk defensiveness lately on this comm when the US is criticised. It’s really weird.

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      10 months ago

      Because it was the center of the capitalist class. That’s about it. Every other capitalist state has issues you’ve described. I’m in Russia, and we get school shootings, stabbings and more nowadays. Despite having significantly more strict gun control laws.

      Think dialectically. USSR began to have issues with gang violence in its later days, as the society was entering a crisis and the leadership was slowly, but surely abandoning socialist principles.

      Aside, I’m noticing a lot of knee jerk defensiveness lately on this comm when the US is criticised

      Point an instance of my comment “defending the USA”.

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        10 months ago

        19 Countries with the Most School Shootings (total incidents Jan 2009-May 2018 - CNN):

        United States — 288

        Mexico — 8

        South Africa — 6

        Nigeria & Pakistan — 4

        Afghanistan — 3

        Brazil, Canada, France — 2

        Azerbaijan, China, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Kenya, Russia, & Turkey — 1

        (https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/school-shootings-by-country)

        One country seems a bit higher than the others 🤔

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        10 months ago

        the center of the capitalist class.

        What does this even mean? It’s different because it’s the centre but it’s the same anyway?

        The claim was that the “psychosis” of the US was because it was capitalist and that everywhere else was therefore the same. I’ve pointed out that there is nowhere quantitatively similar in a variety of areas. To that you say, well it’s because it’s the centre.

        It seems to be that I’m the only one thinking dialectically here. It we want to think dialectically, we need to know what things like “the centre of the capitalist class” is. If England for example was once it, then why didn’t it exhibit the same behaviour?

        USSR began to have issues with gang violence in its later days

        And therefore…?

        Denying the unique “psychosis” (not my word) of the US and equivalising it with every other capitalist states can be seen as defending it.