• NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
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          11 months ago

          He’s currently being abandoned by young progressives over his decisions in this war. This is the demographic he needs to win the most, so you can probably see the problem here.

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            11 months ago

            Well really what are the young progressives gonna do? Vote for whatever fascist clown is gonna run against him?

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              11 months ago

              Not vote at all, or vote third party. None of these will get a good candidate into office, but they’ll do more than enough to lose Biden the election.

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                If they consistently voted, that would be a bigger threat. Vote third party because no one will believe the demographic that consistently sits out elections sat this one out specifically to hand the country to fascists. That didn’t work out so well for Germans or the rest of the world, but maybe the Fourth Reich is the charm.

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                  11 months ago

                  Like I said to the other guy: They don’t vote enough but voter turnout for the 18-30 age bracket was almost 50% in 2020 (the highest in a very long time). If Biden can’t get the same numbers for 2024 he loses, and he’s very much failing at that.

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          Democrats are kinda beholden to public opinion and it’s mercurial nature because they’re platform is that they are the entity responsible for people getting what they want…

          If public opinion sways to being against Israel, it is expected that a democratic government will follow suit.

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            There are probably less than a dozen politicians in America that actually listen to their constituents. The rest are Republicans or Neoliberal Democrats who more or less all play for the same team at the end of the day: money. The neoliberals are also still under the unfortunate impression that the fascists can be negotiated with, which will end very poorly for us all.

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          I suppose you imagine that the war in Gaza is just going to…. Go away? Drop out of the news chcle, maybe?

          It won’t.

          It’s going to stay in the news. As will Ukraine. Like they say: if it bleeds, it leads. In 4k.

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            11 months ago

            I don’t see how Biden’s handling of the Gaza situation is at all a negative for him.

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              Yeah, Pro-Israel voters are single issue voters. Everyone else will have multiple competing priorities, and ending a genocide is jockeying for a spot on the list with healthcare, economic equality, education, and human rights at home. Biden might lose the pro-Palestine single issue voters, but they aren’t going to show up to vote for Trump, and they don’t exist in numbers that will swing any particular state Biden’s way.

              Until and unless the voters demand a change to our policy in Israel, Biden isn’t the sort of “leader” to challenge his supoorters.

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                  Not at all. But that’s my point. I think the reason Biden is pro-Israel is the same reason every other politician is pro-Israel and why anyone calling for an end to the genocide will not get enough support to get their party’s nomination.

                  There is no help for Palestinians coming from the United States government.

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                    Not at all. But that’s my point. I think the reason Biden is pro-Israel is the same reason every other politician is pro-Israel and why anyone calling for an end to the genocide will not get enough support to get their party’s nomination.

                    because of the foreign influence campaign? I can think of a few who are… not being bribed…