The amount of people here commenting authoritatively about this is disheartening.
Trump’s economic policies were insane. I remember looking at his campaign platform and seeing tax cuts everywhere and with no way to pay for anything.
I remember him shuttering valuable tools like the pandemic response teams because he wanted to tear down the success of previous administrations.
I still remember him mocking our military, displaying state secrets on national tv, trade wars that destroyed American jobs, diplomatic decisions that ruined international relationships.
I remember immigrant children locked in cages.
I remember the rule of law being absolutely trampled in order to achieve nothing. Just norms and institutions being torn down.
Trump accomplished nothing and made literally every facet of our government, politics and economic life worse.
He performed a political pump and dump and the entire world is still picking up the pieces.
He is a fascist and categorically the worst president we’ve ever had and every person here saying, “well actually…” should be ashamed.
While I agree I’d be careful with “I remember immigrant children locked in cages.” If you don’t want all the “ObAmA StArTeD iT aNd BiDeN CoNtInUeD!” comments lol
Obama is gonna close Gitmo any day now like he promised.
And surely Joe “I’m a Zionist” Biden wouldn’t do worse things to brown children than lock them in cages.
And Biden taxed the rich and the economy is fine now. Not like the private sector owns all housing funded by unlimited free money loaning like in 2008 or anthing.
Both sides Schmoth sides everyone!
Its amazing to see the flack when you say something along the lines of both sides are the same. In the end they will do anything for money except what is right for the people
Both sides are pretty bad. They are not the same.
“Slow the testing down, please!”
he should have been immediately arrested and thrown in the fucking Hague with that statement.
He is a fascist and the worst president we could’ve possibly had that didn’t commit straight up genocide.*
Removing children from parents is genocide.
No it’s not. The goal must be to exterminate the entirety of a group of people.
Being a cruel fascist piece of shit othering central americans by separating children - parents in detention centers then reuniting most of them isn’t genocide.
Forcible transferring of children from Ukraine may potentially violate multiple international law provisions.Footnote5 In its latest report, the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine concluded that the transfer and deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia constitute violations of Article 147 of the Geneva Convention IV, Articles 74 and 85(4)(b)-(5) of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions, and Article 8(1) of the Convention of the Rights of the Child.Footnote6 On 17 March 2023, the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued warrants of arrest for two individuals in the situation in Ukraine: President Putin and Commissioner L’vova-Belova for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation (under Articles 8(2)(a)(vii) and 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute).Footnote7
International lawyersFootnote8 remain divided on extent to which Russia’s actions in Ukraine constitute genocide under any of the paragraphs of Article IIFootnote9 of the Genocide Convention.Footnote10 Predictably, the fundamental challenge lies with proving dolus specialis, a special intent to physically destroy the group, as required by the genocide definition.Footnote11
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10443894231200659
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciv-1949/article-50
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2023.2228085
An example where it is but they aren’t necessarily killing every one of them?
Wow lol. Just have to be 100% right don’t you.
TL;DR.
Article 2 Subsection E: (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Wow lol. Just have to be 100% right don’t you.
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I’m glad you know more than international lawyers who specialize in war crimes.
I’m glad you’re watering down geopolitical atrocities as some political gotcha instead of trying to understand the truth beyond propaganda sound bytes.
I’m not saying any of that lmao.
That’s literally one of the aspects of genocide as defined by the International Court of the Hague, lol.
Jesus, man. Smoke a joint or learn how to communicate better.
Weed and I have never mixed well lol. Most smoking for that matter. I blame living in households full of smokers for the first 18 years of my life. Thank god banning it in public buildings finally got around to being a thing in the USA.
And yes, it is, as I clarified to the proper context.
E: You can call a chicken a duck as much as you want. It doesn’t make them both a chicken just because they’re both poultry.
That can be an element of genocide, but you need more, otherwise we could say that putting kids into foster care is a type of genocide, which is silly.
We do and did to native Americans.
Not silly.
But that just proves my point that it has to be more than just putting kids into foster care. You wouldn’t claim that we’re guilty of genocide every time we take a white kid away from their drug-addicted criminal family. There has to be more to it as you yourself have just tacitly acknowledged. It has to be systemic and part of a much larger pattern, just as was the very program vis Native Americans that you mention.
Again, the case remains; simply removing kids from their families is not necessarily grounds for charges of genocide. We need more.
What about this do you not understand?
Chris Hanson arrest them
Thank you for saying that. I have been making that case for years and no one else has ever agreed with me.
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I call this recency bias. Trump was terrible, but not the worst.
So Andrew Jackson?
In your opinion, who is worse?
IMO a lot of the shit we are dealing with socio-politically is because Andrew Johnson appeased the southern traitors and allowed them to keep their wealth and power after the Civil War. I often wonder what we’d be like if the Confederacy were properly humbled and then reconstructed instead of what happened. Maybe the road from Tea Party to MAGA would have never been walked.
Germany was “properly humbled” after WW1 and the treaty of Versailles. Pretty sure the consensus is that this was a significant stepping stone to some bad things happening in Europe.
Humiliation leads to resentment, resentment leads to revanchism, revanchism leads to jingoism.
Yeah, we wouldn’t want to completely humiliate them for the reasons you mentioned, but they still should have removed the established judges/officials among other things.
Fuck Woodrow Wilson.
At least Wilson was competent and qualified for the job.
Who’s worse?
Show this to any trump fan and they’ll just say:
“No, he didn’t”. And that’s it. You can’t reason with trump supporters.
Stock market went up! Best president ever!
Ok, the stock market is at a near record high right now, under Joe Biden. Does that mean Joe Biden is now the best president ever?
Nope. Why? Because [reason they just invented off the top of their head and will forget in five minutes].
Me= Obama was the one who got bin Ladn
GOP =No, it was the troops that got bin Ladn.
Me = So, Bush dressing up like a fighter pilot and pretending he’d done anything was a giant insult to the real heroes?
GOP = Why do you hate America?
Bush was a fighter pilot, though, in the 70s.
In order to get out of fighting in Vietnam, he joined the air national guard. Never flew a mission and ended up getting grounded because he didn’t complete a physical on time in 1972.
We’re splitting hairs here, but to me, never flying a mission and getting grounded means he was never a ‘fighter pilot.’
I mean, we agree on the basics and have a mildly different interpretation of the terms.
Have a safe and happy holiday season
A large portion of fighter pilots don’t actually fly a mission or a mission that involves weapons activation. That doesn’t make them any less of a fighter pilot. Most of the time they are training or just protecting assets.
But if you want to walk up to these guys and suggest they are not a fighter pilot cause they didn’t kill anyone yet then go ahead.
Tell it to my 401k bud
To be fair, even if Trump did manage the pandemic like a sane person, the economy likely would’ve still taken a massive pandemic hit.
Other nations, with better public health policies and lower losses of life, also saw a bonkers hit to economic indicators.
You can’t say that about the rampant spending that took place during his administration. Conservative fiscal policy be damned!
They are only concerned with spending when they are not in power.
It’s been that way for years.
It’s classic Two Santas from the Republicans again.
He gave small business owners instant full depreciation for large assets - specifically vehicles. It was an outright bribe because they all just went and bought luxury personal vehicles and claim they are for work. Sorry, no one uses a Land Rover for work.
Well, he got half of his term playing golf. If he had been all day in office I am sure that he’d tanked it even more.
What if I told you that people who vote for Trump aren’t doing so for his fiscal policy? 🤔
I’ve watched interviews of MAGAts being asked what specific Trump policy made their lives better and their answers are always “the economy”.
They know that the real reason isn’t popular so they won’t say it most of the time.
“He’s hurting the wrong people!”
That’s all one needs to know, to determine that they are only about needless suffering, for needless suffering’s sake. They are not interested in helping anyone. They want to ensure that you have to suffer at least as much, and preferably more than they did.
This particular ideology is literally counter to every previous ideology. They finally managed to create more than enough for everyone, and for the first time in human history a generation decided to be so greedy that their descendants are less well off than their parents.
Welcome to late stage capitalism.
You shouldn’t believe them.
Or any policy
I just saw a headline that most Republicans think he should be the candidate regardless of if he gets convicted of his various crimes.
I didn’t actually read it so take it with a grain of salt lol.
For real, he’s the icon of deregulation, I get the feeling they would be happier to vote for him if he was actually in prison.
He’d just be the pariah they so desperately desire. “See?! He was locked up for being too cool!”
… But they sure are quick to attack Biden on that front. Facts be damned
They don’t care about facts. Their feelings are what makes their policy. That is specifically why they touted the “facts not feelings” meme. They don’t have to abide by it, and it restrics everyone else. They have no shame, they have no sense of hypocrisy. Every single accusation is nothing more than a confession, and we should start ignoring their bullshit red herrings.
His policies were standard republican fare. The difference maker was covid.
Because he’s a criminal mental invalid with followers of the same ilk.
Just economic record?
All we want is just for one side to be perfect. Not like it’s hard or anything 😂
Well then you’ll be waiting forever.
Personally I’d rather try to institute changes, starting at the local level, and moving upwards.
At least he didn’t start a new war, beating, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, George Bush, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy, Dwight D. Eisenhower and many more…
Keyword is “start”
You know they physically removed his presidential order to attack Venezuela, and that they’d frequently do similar tactics because he’d forgot that he signed an order that would have started a war, right?
First time i’ve heard of it, you got a link with that?
Here’s an article talking about his idea of attacking Venezuela. Here’s one that mentions how Woodward identified people removing docs from his desk because they created national security threats. That one is very short but there are longer and more detailed write ups. The Iran crack plan he ordered is well known, because it’s one of the top secret docs he showed to reporters.
But those are two separate events, you claimed that “they physically removed his presidential order to attack Venezuela”. None of those links claim that…
Syria was a continuation from Obama https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35806229 A US-led global coalition has also carried out air strikes and deployed special forces in Syria since 2014 to help an alliance of Kurdish and Arab militias
Iran, was a buildup of troops in Saudi Arabia, says so in your own linked article…
Yemen, was also a continuation from Obama
Why are you getting downvoted lmao people really don’t want to hear this.
That’s why I said it. People need to hear inconvenient truths once in a while. This place is too much of an echo-chaimber.
The world is a more dangerous place because of Trump, and we are seeing the results of that.
This idea that the world is a naturally safe and peaceful place is flat out wrong.
He certainly didn’t help, but I think it would’ve been the worst Economic record in modern U.S. history no matter who you put at the helm.
It’d be like blaming any one person for The Great Depression, it was gonna hit either way by the time it happened, whoever was there could only mitigate it.
Though again, he did nothing to help it, and probably did exacerbate the issues…
Anyone else in charge wouldn’t have dismantled pandemic response teams, sold off emergency medical supplies for cash, and dragged their feet on testing and containment, all of which contributed to an epidemic turning into a pandemic. So no. Anyone else would probably not have done just as poorly.
I probably won’t ever forget New Zealand having football/soccer matches in a big-ass stadium like normal. Many other countries got back to normal way, way before we did.
